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Sevarin: What a great story!

I get a lot of praise - not based on selection, singing, system - but attitude. Anyone who hires me through my home pub always feeds back how accommodating I am, how good I am with people.

THAT (to me) is the first rule of hosting!

Okay it was me I said it it. Ericlater I respect your opinion on many issues. This one I disagree on. I'm not saying I am all knowledgable about all things, but I am the type of person to see the glass half full. "What goes around comes around" is an adage I've grown up with. To me it means not to let it bother you when someone does you wrong because generally people who live their lives doing wrong to others doesn't lead a very happy life. I don't wish bad on others. It just doesn't do me any good to let people upset me that are less of character. A man steals my purse and doesn't get caught. Do I waste my time wishing ill for him - NO. I go on with my life knowing he can not continue in this manner without some day getting caught.

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I absolutely agree. I am the same way. I always try to make everybody feel welcome, no matter how hard you have to bite your own tongue sometimes. In fact, I don't understand, how KJ's with a bad attitude can actually survive in this business. But somehow they do...

However, I try my best in every way. I always work on my system, selection, songbooks, etc just to make sure, whoever attends my shows will not forget it that easily.

And it shows in the amount of compliments I get from new people attending my shows or even regulars, telling me how much I spoiled them, to the point that they don't even want to go to any other show anymore.

??? That is ridiculous. If your spouse is cheating, you shouldn't put any blame on the person they're cheating with. They're not married to you, they don't owe you squat. And the only reason they're able to cheat with your spouse is because your spouse is willingly letting them do it.

Because the KJ had an exceptionally good singing voice, you agreed to a gig without even establishing a price? What am I missing here, because that makes absolutely no sense to me.

re invention I know you as an intelligent humourous man, he said so much more than that...I think I would have done the same thing in his shoes...to have felt worthy of filling the shoes of someone who ran a fair rotate, without bias, and mixed sound well...sounds like a pretty good endorsement to me

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"Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."

Im sure he didn just BLINDLY say OOOOOOHHHHH YEEEESSSS!!!!!

Im sure they would have told him how much, dates, where at, etc, etc etc.

Makes no sense otherwise.

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"You know that I sing the Blues and I do not suffer fools. When I'm on that silver mic, it's gonna cut ya, just like a knife"-The SWINGCAT

PErsonally my past experience has been, having hosts i hired steal my gigs, or others coming into to try and steal a gig cause it looks profitable. what alot of those types fail to realize is its that way cause i or i'm sure others like you have made a fun place and know what it takes to keep it going. i found if u run your show the best u can the way u think and enjoy it thats all that matters. sometimes this is still gonna happen .... i say that club doesnt deserve u if they cant see the light in having you and move on. i've had clubs approach me about an offer from another kj and i usually just say if u want to go with them go ahead but don't ask me to come back. i also state ask them if they offer the same or better if not why are u bringin it up. in conclusion enjoy what u do no matter what field shady characters exist and are clueless on making a club go from nothing to something. where as u can do it again. cheers

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Kurt I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about. This guy should have never been hired in the first place. This person has enormous talent in the singing department but is "Ethically Challenged" and always has been.

I do agree that having someone run your show is inviting this process. The bar and the KJ tend to forget who's equipment and music it is. I think it is a natural thing that happens and somehow they justify in their own minds that what they are doing is ok.

Every KJ I have trained has ended up with a swelled head down the road and I start getting comments from customers I have never met that he sure has a great system and he always has my songs or buys them whenever I request them. The KJ's begin to believe that it is their show not yours and that is when the trouble begins.

They seem to forget the fact that you are the one who has 40K invested and graciously offered to train them to get started in the field in the first place. Then one day they begin to resist you when it comes to the way you want your show run. I have learned that if you do not cut the cord right there and then you are going to loose your gig.

I tell all new trainees this story and also tell them that when and if it gets to that point they are gone...PERIOD no discussions.

I found this works really well. All it takes is to fire a couple of them and the word gets around that you don't play that game.

As for price undercutters I don't worry about them at all. If the bar wants to entertain it then they are not worth working for in the first place.

I do a great job and have excellent working relationships with my bar venues and have never had an undercutter succeed yet. I guess I just pick my bars carefully and have a good deal of luck as well.

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Babs,

I don't think that you and I disagree, but rather have interpreted "what goes around comes around" differently. As I've heard it used throughout my life, it is a somewhat vengeful wish uttered by those who are looking for some type of satisfaction and/or justice after having been "injured" by another.

If you revisit all of my posted comments on this subject, consider in re-reading them that I am expressing an opinion that believes if there was any truth to that adage most folks would only do good because experience would have taught them that doing bad always comes full circle and bites them in their.......AND CLEARLY IT DOESN'T.

So..I still maintain that what "goes around" does NOT always "come around"; neither as to the good nor the bad that mankind does. And I know for a fact that when I perform a righteous act that I am never concerned about it "coming around", and I have no evidence, in fact, that is has/does!

I like the the phrase "what comes around goes around", and would disagree with those who say it doesn't hold much truth. I try and send out happy things and do my best for people.... the outcome being that I'm happy, i can sleep at night and I have very little stress in my life. I can't think of one person who has wronged me who is content and happy.

I find it interesting that at the end of Marbles post she has made the very type of comment that I have alluded to in my posts. She seemingly derives satisfaction in believing that those who have "harmed" her have lives full of discontent and discord; while she doesn't!

Now, doesn't her final statement reflect exactly what I've been saying regarding how I interprete the thinking of those who use that expression?

I don't have any satisfaction in knowing that those who have "harmed" me have lives full of discontent and lack of happiness... but i do know if someone does harm me , i'll be back on my feet and happy shortly. What the other party does is not my problem anymore.... but i am aware they don't find any long term happiness in what they do.

I watch "My name is Earl".... I get Karma

Marble, I am thoroughly confused. Within my posts, I suggested that people who use that horrible adage believe that those who do bad in turn experience bad. I have concluded, therefore, that either "satisfaction" and/or a sense of "justice" is derived in the minds of those who hold said adage to be true!

So, if you're not deriving "satisfaction" when you mentioned the state of those who have harmed you, I can only conclude that you believe that "justice" has been served through their "suffering".

If I am completely wrong, I am left wondering why then you even mentioned the "fate" of those who have done you wrong? And if I'm not wrong, your comments just serve to support why I detest that adage!

I see the justice in myself finding happiness. I mentioned that in my experiance the "fate" of those who have done me wrong isn't happiness, more to emphasis the point that "what comes around goes around" doesn't just apply to the do-gooders but to everyone.

I understand your frustration with generic phrases and sayings which get thrown around... there are certain ones which get my hackles up.... (or at least make me tune out)...eg. "politically correct", "it's common sense!" and anyone who says "I know I probably shouldn't say this but..."

I just have a soft spot for the one used in this thread.

Whats wrong with"it's common sense" ? Some people can be highly educated, but have no common sense at all.....Ok,..what about horse sense instead, .
One that I hate is "they he/she was "in the wrong place at the wrong time"

I think you hit the nail on head. Some people may take the phrase differently and take solace in the fact they think the other person may in some way experience bad things in their lives. I don't bother wasting negative energy on others. I just think that if I concentrate on being a good person and doing good things in my life I will have a better life, unlike people who don't. In other words, I concentrate on myself. I did the right thing so I will be a happier person, so why waste energy on the person who has done me wrong.

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Babs, I think Marble understands that there are trite phrases that get tossed about without any forethought. And as you said, some take solace from uttering and/or hearing them. I guess I don't; many simply rankle me. Some send the hairs on the back of my neck in an upright position.

Ironically, on TV today one of the news shows listed what one organization considers to be the 10 most trite expressions of the day. I wish I had written them down. "What Goes Around" WASN'T one of them. Oh, well!

Eric thank you for not calling me out on my bad spelling.

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