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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:52 am 
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OK so with the coalition of left over legal manufactures of karaoke music in the US (since sony put everybody else out of business) are they (thekiaa.org) going to have the ability to put the karaoke service businesses into legal standings for being in business. I compete against the companies with a 400,000 song selection on a hard drive they bought over the internet (limewire, bit torrent) I will not drop myself down to that level but do you think the industry can take care of these type of scabs in the karaoke industry..... Please give me your thoughts....


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DJ DANGERUS @ Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:52 am wrote:
OK so with the coalition of left over legal manufactures of karaoke music in the US (since sony put everybody else out of business) are they (thekiaa.org) going to have the ability to put the karaoke service businesses into legal standings for being in business. I compete against the companies with a 400,000 song selection on a hard drive they bought over the internet (limewire, bit torrent) I will not drop myself down to that level but do you think the industry can take care of these type of scabs in the karaoke industry..... Please give me your thoughts....

Not a chance, in my opinion, if they model themselves after RIAA and threats.

The whole business is in the shape it is in because the music industry failed to see digital delivery taking over, and they dug their heels in fighting it. I see nothing with "KIAA" that promises to address that, so they are doomed.

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They do not bother me. They can have 40 million songs. I have 13k of one of the best selections and buy as singers request new ones. As far as DJ I have the top 150 hits of all decades from 1950- present and over 9k DJ total. Both selections are from over a decade of buying and trimming as needed. Once or twice a year I might have an out of towner or stranger come up with a request that I dont have.

choose filter and search The top 200 is DJ but applies to karaoke also.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:00 pm 
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Read their "membership requirements" for each of their categories.

Note that if you purchase and/or use the products, KJ or Venue membership, then your MUST agree to the following:

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Agree to a voluntary audit and/or field audit of your karaoke music libraries. A representative of the KIAA may check your karaoke music libraries for compliance.


There is NO SUCH "verification" process for either manufacturers or distributors/resellers regarding sampling, licensing or distribution. Or any other situation as well. They are in fact, untouchable. There is no language that would require a "KIAA investigator" to investigate their actions.

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Agree to the KIAA redress policy for using unauthorized karaoke music content.


However, a web site search for the word "redress" produces no results, so they're not going to be upfront enough to clearly post that information for their members or prospective members.


There is WAAAYY to much missing information and what IS there is so one-sided against the very persons that purchase the products to agree to anything with this organization... IN MY OPINION.

It might be a nice idea, but in it's current form (IMHO) it is useless to me.

Now, the easiest argument to this is; "If you're legal, then you have nothing to worry about."

Right. However, under this membership structure, you must allow them to visually inspect your library and agree to an unpublished redress policy, but NO ONE can visually inspect a manufacturers license(s) or a resellers inventory. That is all done on the "honor system"...

It's not an equitable membership structure and the disparity makes me wonder about the true agenda here.

Just an opinion, you decide for yourself.


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