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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:51 am 
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Big Hitz discs have great quality sound and decent graphics! The best part is the song selection -- most songs will actually get sung, and they have a variety of genres.

You can still get #307 to #317 with a few gaps

WARNING: disc 318 has VERY POOR GRAPHICS -- words and lines are crammed together in small print. It looks like they changed their supplier and/or programmers. I hope they change back to the good stuff.

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Who is Big Hitz? How do you know they've produced the discs legally in the first place?


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How do you know that they are not legal???

Can't anyone make a post anymore without someone making a big legality issue over it???

I agree with you Randy...their backings are very good and their song selections are good too.


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Has anyone thrown out any of their illegally made CDG's? Why get on a high horse about Big Hitz unless you're willing to get rid of all of your ALL HITS DISCS; YOUR DANGEROUS DISCS; YOUR TOP HITS MONTHLY DISCS AND NUMEROUS OTHER BRANDS THAT NEVER DID THINGS STRICTLY BY THE BOOK?


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Great point BruceFan.....got anything from these manufacturers in your library Mr. Staley?? Better get rid of them then.


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My point exactly. I posted that on purpose... It's amazing to me how many KJ's on these forums proclaim to be "legal" when a good portion of their library has been illegally produced. There are a few manufacturers that NEVER licensed anything, yet almost everyone has their discs.

They jump on their high horse about being legal, but feel it's perfectly acceptable to use the illegal tracks because they "bought them in good faith, and didn't know?"

What a HUGE double-standard.

Okay, you may carry on....

Anyway, I've never heard of Bit Hitz... do they have a web site where we can look at the disc listings?


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I am taking back my post because I jumped the gun--I'm always confusing Big HItz with Quick Hitz and I wrote about the wrong Hitz. But I do have one Big Hitz and agree that it is pretty good.


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leopard lizard @ Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:23 pm wrote:
I am taking back my post because I jumped the gun-

Since I never saw your original post, what you've just said makes little sense to me.
Why not just make another post altogether correcting yourself rather than deleting it?
It would really help with the continuity of the thread....


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If I am not mistaken, I do believe Big Hitz, Quik Hitz, and Big Country are all produced by the same company out of Pawtucket, RI. They also produced one disc under the A Major Music label.


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Diafel--I went on and on about Quick Hitz and then realized that the thread was about Big HItz and I haven't figured out how to delete a post entirely, so I did my best to take it back. Sorry. Our satellite was VERY slow tonight and I got frustrated and did what I could do while I could get on.

What I said about Quick Hitz, was that they almost give the discs away. They throw a few in free when you buy something else or sell a set of 10 for $30. They even have an all--stand back--Sugarland disc which sounds very much like the Radio Starz version--although they added a really loud twang version of "Stay" which wasn't so good. But for the most part they sound good for a $3.00 disc. I only repeat this now because the gentleman above indicates that the two Hitz are related. The Big Hitz sound better to me and they tend to sell for more, also. I have a "Hips Don't LIe" by Big HItz that sounds very authentic.

I didn't mean for you to have to make sense of my post. I just didn't want it read at all. Sorry.


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As long as I can buy a pressed disc from a store - usually a brand name, I will assume it's legal. If the manu pulls it, then it is no longer legal for them to sell - I have several discs that WERE legal (or supposdly) that were recalled due to licensing pull backs.

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As long as I can buy a pressed disc from a store - usually a brand name, I will assume it's legal. If the manu pulls it, then it is no longer legal for them to sell - I have several discs that WERE legal (or supposdly) that were recalled due to licensing pull backs.


Okay Lonman, let's step back a bit and take a good hard look at this whole senario. First, put yourself in the position of the manufacturer. Let's say that you had negotiated with the Eagles, for example, and had properly licensed to create and sell 5,000 karaoke discs.

Would YOU sign an agreement that would allow the Eagles to "change their mind" after you had already spent a fortune to do what you are "licensed" to do? I don't think you would and I know that I wouldn't.

I think if there was any kind of clause that would let them change their minds with regard to licensing, they'd be picking up the tab for the work I'd done up to that point. I would certainly never sign an agreement that didn't "CYA" in any way, shape or form.

It is my "opinion" that neither Mariah Carey. the Eagles or any other artist actually ever "pulled" a license. A license is a contract and if one party is gonna bail on it, they can but it will also cost some serious moolah to do it..

I believe the tracks in question were produced and being sold BEFORE they were fully licensed, the artists found out and threatened a lawsuit.

But hey, it's all just an opinion......


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:20 am 
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Oops. In this day of many illegal karaoke download sites, I assumed that all manufactured discs were legal. Doh! Now I feel dumb.

So... now I ask... is Big Hitz doing business in a legitimate manner?


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c. staley @ Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:34 am wrote:
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As long as I can buy a pressed disc from a store - usually a brand name, I will assume it's legal. If the manu pulls it, then it is no longer legal for them to sell - I have several discs that WERE legal (or supposdly) that were recalled due to licensing pull backs.


Okay Lonman, let's step back a bit and take a good hard look at this whole senario. First, put yourself in the position of the manufacturer. Let's say that you had negotiated with the Eagles, for example, and had properly licensed to create and sell 5,000 karaoke discs.

Would YOU sign an agreement that would allow the Eagles to "change their mind" after you had already spent a fortune to do what you are "licensed" to do? I don't think you would and I know that I wouldn't.

I think if there was any kind of clause that would let them change their minds with regard to licensing, they'd be picking up the tab for the work I'd done up to that point. I would certainly never sign an agreement that didn't "CYA" in any way, shape or form.

It is my "opinion" that neither Mariah Carey. the Eagles or any other artist actually ever "pulled" a license. A license is a contract and if one party is gonna bail on it, they can but it will also cost some serious moolah to do it..

I believe the tracks in question were produced and being sold BEFORE they were fully licensed, the artists found out and threatened a lawsuit.

But hey, it's all just an opinion......


Oh it definitely could be true as well that they may be doing so before getting licensing. CB is/was in lawsuits for that very thing, so was PHM & even Sound Choice for that matter. Being we aren't in the business of actually manufacturing the discs we can only speculate. Actually if I recall correctly, that was the case with the 8125 Eagles disc, they produced & released on the premise they would get the licensing but didn't & had to pull it. I'm sure this has happened over & over. But again, I do not believe it would come down on the kj for having a copy that was made by an actual manu. Have never heard of a case like that anyway.

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that was the case with the 8125 Eagles disc, they produced & released on the premise they would get the licensing but didn't & had to pull it.

My point exactly. Why would you spend a ton of moolah on a "maybe?" And if the artist never noticed this nitch market, do you think the manufacturer would have waited until they actually were licensed to sell it? Nope.,they didn't did they?

Look how quickly Top Tunes cranked out a HUGE library of songs..... there is no way that they could have licensed any of them.

If you believe that because you purchased a pressed disc that it muste be legal then isn't this like saying; "No, I didn't rob the bank, I just drove the car."

Granted, it shouldn't be your responsibility to check up on every license for every disc you own but unfortunately, this industry has literally been built on violation after violation.

DKKaraoke isn't out of business, it's alive and well in Japan... it packed up and left the U.S. when the American manufacturers refused to follow our own laws and license their music before selling it just as described above. Diachii Kosho was driven out by this type of manufacturing piracy.

The only other manufacturer that I'm aware of that was 100% licensed was Priddis out of Salt Lake.

If you name a manufacturer, i'll bet you can verify that their library contains illegally produced tracks and you can verify it with the artists or writer.


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c. staley @ Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:25 pm wrote:
My point exactly. Why would you spend a ton of moolah on a "maybe?" And if the artist never noticed this nitch market, do you think the manufacturer would have waited until they actually were licensed to sell it? Nope.,they didn't did they?

Look how quickly Top Tunes cranked out a HUGE library of songs..... there is no way that they could have licensed any of them.

If you believe that because you purchased a pressed disc that it muste be legal then isn't this like saying; "No, I didn't rob the bank, I just drove the car."

Granted, it shouldn't be your responsibility to check up on every license for every disc you own but unfortunately, this industry has literally been built on violation after violation.

DKKaraoke isn't out of business, it's alive and well in Japan... it packed up and left the U.S. when the American manufacturers refused to follow our own laws and license their music before selling it just as described above. Diachii Kosho was driven out by this type of manufacturing piracy.

The only other manufacturer that I'm aware of that was 100% licensed was Priddis out of Salt Lake.

If you name a manufacturer, i'll bet you can verify that their library contains illegally produced tracks and you can verify it with the artists or writer.

It's not up to me to contact each artist on a disc to see if it was legally produced or not.
Do you contact each artist on a regular mainstream compilation disc to see if they are correctly licensed to produce it?
Is it even your problem to do so?
Of course not!
When's the last time you walked in to a Tower Records store and worried if what you were purchasing was legally produced?
The same holds true for karaoke.
I walk into my local music store and purchase my discs.
I'm not beside myself trying to figure out if they were legally produced or not.
It's simply not my problem.
If the same situation was happening in the mainstream music industry (which it is), do you think they would hold the end consumer responsible for checking to see if what they own was legally produced?
Of course not!
In fact, the opposite is true and I have even seen music companies offering legitimate copies in trade for ratting out pirates. (Please don't ask me where or who. I don't remember as it was many years ago.)

It's neither here nor there to the end consumer as to when a license is retained and it's certainly none of our business as to the minute details of the legal wranglings of said companies.
It's naught to do with the end consumer.
The legality of the discs is the companies' responsibility and the legal wranglings around it have little to nothing to do with me as an end consumer, except that if the company doesn't get the license required, then I can no longer purchase the disc.
The fact that it was released pre-emptively, if, in fact, it was, is not my problem. It's the company's.

And THAT, my friend, is EXACTLY why it's NOT piracy for us to possess and use these discs.
They are legitimate manufacturer's discs and they are purchased in good faith, oftentimes from a retail store.
We are not purchasing a loaded hard drive or even cheap discs from China that are so obviously fake.

It is not up to the end consumer to regulate the industry.


PLEASE don't tell me that because I own SGB CB, or whatever discs that were purchased LEGALLY and in good faith that I am a pirate.
NOT SO!
It's the manufacturers that committed the piracy, not me, and THEY are the ones who must pay the price.
And that's why they are either going out of business or going off shore where it IS legal to produce them.
Panorama is a prime example.
Are you now going to pull from your books and throw out all your Top Hits Monthly discs because the company was found to have not paid the royalties due?
If you don't, does that make you a pirate?
Of course not!
Let's not get carried away with the piracy issue and get out of hand about it.

Until the music industry releases a list of sings that are legal for karaoke on a monthly ongoing basis, and a list of ones that are not, I will continue to purchase my discs in GOOD FAITH and not worry about it.


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Licensing gets pulled for different things all the time after the initial licence was granted. I'm sure that somewhere written in the large contracts that the manu's sign there is the clause that the artist or record label can pull the licence if it thinks that some kind of harm is being done to their name.

I'm with the others who say "If I purchased it legally then as far as I'm concerned it's legal, it's not up to me to decide what is and what is not", and if comes down to the fact that they say I have and illegal disc that was made by a well noted manu then I guess the ball will start rolling back up hill to include the retailer (selling illegal goods), the shipper (shipping illegal goods), guy who packages it (handling illegal goods for distribution), and so on til it reaches the manu.

Enough said.

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Randy J @ Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:51 am wrote:
Big Hitz discs have great quality sound and decent graphics! The best part is the song selection -- most songs will actually get sung, and they have a variety of genres.


Without getting into the legal issues I agree with Randy on Big Hitz. I have purchased every disc but the last (thanks for the warning Randy) because they really get used a lot.

Just an example... right off the first disc, "My Immortal" "Toxic" "Milkshake" "My Happy Ending"... these songs are still done regularly in my club, and many others get sung occasionally. And every disc is the same way... four to six songs are still sung regularly in the room, which is amazing for a disc series made up of recent tracks but not established karaoke classics. They picked them right.

Quality seems fine to me. I personally sing several things from this series and have never felt the need to replace any of them with tracks from a major.


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I rarely get a single disc anymore but because there were a number of songs that I did not have yet I went out and bought 308-315. I must say that I was surprised when I saw them when I played them(I audition every disc before adding them to my collection). The graphics reminded me of the latter of Hip Tracks' graphics. I am very pleased with my purchase.

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If I buy it from a karaoke store, or a private seller and it was a pressed disc, as far as I'm concerned, it's legal to be in my collection.

That means the ALL Hits, SGB, Nutech, CB, SC, Leg, STTW, and every other pressed disc line that was released.

The ones I WON'T add to my collection are the inkjet labels, unless they're a custom disc from a manu.

HonkeyCat comes immediately to mind.


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