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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:53 pm 
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I have used my singing machine SMG 320 for the past six years. I use the CDG's. Recently when I use the machine in a building with a lot of Music in the next room (heavy base). The walls vibrate some from that noise. the onscreen lyrics scramble. This same CDG used in a different building work fine. Is there something I can do to keep this from happening. Can you suggest what the problem is. The disks have been checked, cleaned and then used in that same room when there is no music or noise next door. They work fine. Help! please. I really like this machine and need a solution
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Get a piece of foam rubber to sit the machine on. I had a player that did the same thing with my sub. Sitting it on a piece of foam helped quite a bit.

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convert to computer! :)


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knightshow @ Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:25 am wrote:
convert to computer! :)



Aw man, Knight, here too? That wasn't her question. Pushing PC Posse strikes again... :twisted:

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whilst I WAS jokiing, the undeniable fact is the players are getting harder to find. Computers won't have bad lyrics when it comes to vibrations! LOL!


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Yeah, but what happens to those computer HDDs when being constantly subject to the same vibration that causes an optical drive to mis-read?


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no problems yet! And where I worked at I DID get the occassional vibration.

Kurt "Swingcat" does this incredible FOOT STOMP while he's singing his swing/bandstand stuff. I always worried about his cdg when he gave it to me to play getting scratched that way. But when he sang off my stuff, never a problem.

It's one of the main reasons I went to computer... the final, finished product on a safe playable device.

Sure, exposed for a long time to the same rhythmic bouncing I bet it would cause problems.

That's why ya have a backup drive! :)


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When the cd arrived there was no popping and static as there was with vinyl. They would still would skip sometimes though improvements in technology made it slightly better. But now many computer karaoke users also get that audio hiccup from time to time. It usually recovers but throws a little ripple in the performance. Are there some ways to reduce this problem?


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JD @ Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:02 pm wrote:
When the cd arrived there was no popping and static as there was with vinyl. They would still would skip sometimes though improvements in technology made it slightly better. But now many computer karaoke users also get that audio hiccup from time to time. It usually recovers but throws a little ripple in the performance. Are there some ways to reduce this problem?


Mainly good video card I prefer 512 or more on the card, more memory in the computer the better, a bigger hard drive never hurts - with sufficient free space & don't run anything else but your hosting program.

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Lonman @ Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:08 pm wrote:
JD @ Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:02 pm wrote:
When the cd arrived there was no popping and static as there was with vinyl. They would still would skip sometimes though improvements in technology made it slightly better. But now many computer karaoke users also get that audio hiccup from time to time. It usually recovers but throws a little ripple in the performance. Are there some ways to reduce this problem?


Mainly good video card I prefer 512 or more on the card, more memory in the computer the better, a bigger hard drive never hurts - with sufficient free space & don't run anything else but your hosting program.


I'd suppose that if the audio data is buffered in the video card then speed may help also. Of course the application has to send it from the file so there could be system interrupts. So possibly speed, ram capacity and throughput seem to be possible factors. I'm guessing though since I don't get too involved with PC's.


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the video card would have NOTHING to do with the audio.

The audio comes from the onboard sound chip, or an aftermarket sound card.


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knightshow @ Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:57 am wrote:
the video card would have NOTHING to do with the audio.

The audio comes from the onboard sound chip, or an aftermarket sound card.


So you're saying the video card never passes audio?

Ok the way I see it then, the mp3 or audio part of the file gets piped into a sound chip or a sound card. If it were a card or chip I'd expect it to be latched or buffered. At some point during this process if something gets out of whack you may get a hiccup. Does it repeat for a split second or do something different? What causes this in the processing?


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JD @ Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:02 pm wrote:
When the cd arrived there was no popping and static as there was with vinyl. They would still would skip sometimes though improvements in technology made it slightly better. But now many computer karaoke users also get that audio hiccup from time to time. It usually recovers but throws a little ripple in the performance. Are there some ways to reduce this problem?


I had a laptop that would do that from time to time while my rack mounted full blown PC has no such problems. I am thinking it's CPU/memory related since the laptops often use the CPU to run disk and audio subsystems and they share RAM with video. Basically upgrading the rig fixes the issue. Look and see where you can shave cycles. AV software, chat clients, other audio applications and any other non-mission critical items might just fix the issue.

What hosting software are you using? If you're using Compuhost set it for the legacy, non DX, video output. You lose some functionality,none that I use during a show, and it stopped the stuttering music.


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it usually IS a memory or resource thing.

Just have a good P4 or higher machine, plenty of RAM, and not run ANYTHING else on the pc at the same time. ONLY the programs that are absolutely needed... the default stuff the Operating System needs.

That's why I laugh when I hear of people downloading songs (yes even paid for ones) while running shows, surfing the net, posting on here and other forums while they're running the show... which means you have to resource heavy antivirus, blockers, etc... you're also using an internet browser, and the resources it takes to load pages, process activity, etc.

When I run my show computer, I use nothing that's not show related.

When I was doing custom screens for the singers, I found out it would cause a blip when it created the .bin file. So I would create everything I needed, and ONLY when I switched over for ten or twenty seconds of filler music as the next singer came up, did I process the .bin file to .mp3+g...

Solved my blip... and that's on an older Win2Kpro machine.


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