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Gryf
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:54 am |
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Flat out some folks like to throw parties, can afford to front all the wine and cheese but can't afford to be out the money the rest of the month. I personally haven't had a party like that since college; if I couldn't cover the costs I'd ask folks to bring things to spread out the load. Same principal but less obvious, and none of us would have batted an eye had the host asked you to bring a bottle or some chips. Whenever I go to a party I ask what we need to bring and if nothing offer a few bucks to the host. Most times it's declined but I willingly give it if it's accepted.
Tacky = how you wouldn't go about it. If the folks who went didn't mind paying and had fun why cast aspersions on it? Seems like the folks who were offended didn't go anyway so no harm no foul.
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:57 am |
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tbreen @ Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:26 am wrote: And this is exactly why Karaoke is dying!!!
This topic thread is NOT about why you believe Karaoke is dying. It's about someone hosting a private party in their home and charging for it like you were paying a cover charge to walk into a club. As pointed out earlier... the comment that you just (re-) quoted was made tongue in cheek.... note the smiley faces with the post.
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:58 am |
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OKAY --read the OP again
Is this KJ offering to host a private show for $15 ? more of a business thing?
or is this a personal party for close friends and family ?
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:05 am |
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This was a private party in their home. This was not a business venture. The person in question called up people that she is acquainted with (people that she knows who attend various karaoke shows, and some of her friends too), and asked if they wanted to come to a party that she was hosting at her boyfriend's house. It was just a social gathering with a price tag tacked on.
jamkaraoke @ Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:33 am wrote: Tacky to me would have been to invite people over and THEN ask for $15
You have a very good point there.
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:12 am |
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Gryf @ Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:54 am wrote: Flat out some folks like to throw parties, can afford to front all the wine and cheese but can't afford to be out the money the rest of the month. I personally haven't had a party like that since college; if I couldn't cover the costs I'd ask folks to bring things to spread out the load. Same principal but less obvious, and none of us would have batted an eye had the host asked you to bring a bottle or some chips.
True! Most of us wouldn't bat an eyelash if the person throwing the party asked each of the guests to bring something with them (food, dessert, beverage). I know I wouldn't either. But, to ask for money up front (basically you are charging admission), I feel that that is wrong or inappropriate (maybe "tacky" was the wrong word for me to use (after reading something that Jamkaraoke just wrote)).
I will ask you the same question I asked DannyG2006... If you were having a party for a 5 year old kid, and you hired a clown to come over and entertain the other kids (guests), would you tell the Parents that they have to pay you $xxx because you hired a clown?
Maybe it's a double-standard... I don't know.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:38 am |
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I'd go to one of Karyoker's party if he'd get some beer.
But seriously, there is a diiference to being asked to go to a party and being asked to participate in creating a party. If someone asks me to dinner then to me, the host is treating. If they said a bunch of us are going to dinner, want to come along then it is a Dutch treat function.
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SwingcatKurt @ Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:50 pm wrote: I have hosted numerous Karaoke parties at my house in my basement. Usually 25 or so people come. My gear, my music, my place(bar, pool table, etc). Its usually a dinner/party type deal. Sometimes sub sandwiches and salad, or one time did a formal dinner with cornish game hens, another time lasagna. But always food and some basic beer and sodas. Any other specialty drinks its BYOB.
Never a charge. Just me inviting friends for a party.
Sheesh! You never invited me!
Next time you have one of these I will be happy to bring my laptop and plug in!!!
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:00 am |
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Quote: I'd go to one of Karyoker's party if he'd get some beer.
![ROFL2 ROFL](./images/smilies/ices_rofl.sml.gif) ... I'll get you a sixpack. After that you are on your own...
Small businesses and even farmers here give an annual barbeque or party. Karaoke and dance music is the best choice and for most I will give reasonable rates. All nighters or extended ones are lucrative and I have made up to $800 for outside parties. It is a promotion or appreciation party and a celebration of friendship and life.
We did do a family reunion and they hired a guy to roll his cart in and barbeque a whole pig.. HHHMMMMM. They asked all for $5 a plate to help pay for it. Nobody
balked.
Help setting up awnings etc are appreciated just as much as money.
Also sometimes a treasurer is appointed to handle costs. Extra is put into an account for the next party or sometimes donated to local charities or projects. These functions are remembered forever and more often than not they are very special.
I fear with the economy there wont be as many but now is when we need them most
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:21 am |
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The karaoke host probably has seen what she THINKS the bar is making, and thought, if she could get the same people to attend, that her and her boyfriend could pocket the dough. IF the party was successful, I'm betting that your friend will be getting an invitation to ANOTHER "home karaoke party". She probably had it at the boyfriends house, because it could accomodate more people, maybe has a BAR set up in the basement. In my opinion, they're trying to get ALL THE MONEY.
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Providing wine and cheese, with other food, and considering the smaller amount of people who will be there......at $15, I wouldn't plan on making any money..... ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif) guess you save your back from moving any equiptment.....If I brought my own bottle, and some type of a pot luck platter, I'd spend more than 15 bucks, and use time to get the stuff together.
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Around these parts, I've had friends put together a New Years party, and ask for a certain amount of money per person to cover expenses. Who knows, after the eating and singing, maybe they'll get out the mazzola, and everyone will get naked........ ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif) can't do that at a public bar...... ![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:22 pm |
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Cue If I wanted Bud, I'd get some stale water.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:08 pm |
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Timberlea: Not enough Canadian beer, eh? Let's get pixxed and barf...Put on our toques and get out our hockey sticks and skates, eh? I know what you mean...why not drink BEER?
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I like Bud, but there again I'm from Alabama so thats probably not a suprise.
Cueball, you asked me to explain why I dont feel its tacky.
Although someone already touched on it, asking for 15 dollars to come is ok and its no different then saying BYOB, or bring a dish when you give an invite. The person also said so in advance, not at the door. Then I'd be pissed!
Plus, my view probably comes from many a college parties (probably too many) when we were basically all chipping in 5 - 15 bucks a piece to make it happen. We were a bunch of broke kids, true, but kegs cost money, food costs money, entertainment costs money. One person offering up their place to host the party often counted as their contribution, rather than cash, cause it'd be their problem and their place we trashed. Not that yall would trash the place, but theirs always a lot of cleanup after.
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Timberlea,
Is there really an Elsinore Brewery?
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:15 pm |
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karyoker @ Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:00 pm wrote: Small businesses and even farmers here give an annual barbeque or party. Karaoke and dance music is the best choice and for most I will give reasonable rates. All nighters or extended ones are lucrative and I have made up to $800 for outside parties. It is a promotion or appreciation party and a celebration of friendship and life.
We did do a family reunion and they hired a guy to roll his cart in and barbeque a whole pig.. HHHMMMMM. They asked all for $5 a plate to help pay for it. Nobody balked.
Help setting up awnings etc are appreciated just as much as money.
Also sometimes a treasurer is appointed to handle costs. Extra is put into an account for the next party or sometimes donated to local charities or projects. These functions are remembered forever and more often than not they are very special.
I fear with the economy there wont be as many but now is when we need them most
You mention an annual BBQ or party. This sounds like you are describing a community affair. It's reasonable to expect some sort of charge to attend. You even mention the need for a Treasurer. I do not believe it to be reasonable to expect the same thing of guests when you are having a small gathering of friends in your own home (or, as this case may be, her boyfriend's home). What you mentioned in an earlier post was your own party. You invited your own guests/friends to attend with no expectations.
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:23 pm |
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:26 pm |
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johnny reverb @ Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:40 pm wrote: Around these parts, I've had friends put together a New Years party, and ask for a certain amount of money per person to cover expenses. Who knows, after the eating and singing, maybe they'll get out the mazzola, and everyone will get naked........ ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif) can't do that at a public bar...... ![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
What kind of party are you talking about here? You say that you've had friends help put together a party (New Year's). How big was this party (that it required so many to plan)? Was this something like a Block Party (where a whole neighborhood is involved)? How many in attendance?
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karyoker
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:03 pm |
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![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif) Cue For some reason I cant differentiate between your reasons for gate admission criteria. If I invite you over for Thanksgiving dinner of there is no charge. All are invited to our karaoke outside party. There will be 200-300 there. While it is on private property with all benefits of a private party it might be construed as a community affair.
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