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 Post subject: Equipment Choices
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:02 pm 
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I want to buy a club style system for home. I will never use it for any kind of show but just at home for parties.

I found a site that has what looks like low prices and on that site found a component system for about 1299. I started trying to find out about the different components and have landed here hoping for help from y'all that know.

The mixer is a VocoPro KJ-7808 RV, the amp is a Gem Sound. The player is a VocoPro CDG-8800 the speaker are a brand I could find no information about called EAP.

After a bunch of reading I found a player comparsion and some reviews that say the American Audio CDG350 is good player more feature and better quality than the Vocopro.

I also found information that seem to indicate a better speaker choice would be Berhinger, my budget has me thinking Eurolive S1020 or S1220.

The mixer and amp I have not found a lot of stuff on.

This is way more than I need at home maybe too much. I want something pretty stout because I may use it outside at bigger family gatherings out in the country.

So anybody know about these components and want to offer any opinion. It woudl be great to here what y'all might have to say.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:43 pm 
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Gem sound is low end quality in my opinion. A lot of people are going to tell you to stay away from Vocopro as well. That said I have a vocopro 3700 mixer/amplifier and it works well for my secondary sound system. Vocopro is built for karaoke unlike most mixers and amps with features only karaoke hosts would have use for. That said most times their quality is something lacking compared to pro audio stuff that weren't designed with karaoke in mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Equipment Choices
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This site is oriented toward pro systems, so VocoPro doesn't usually get featured.

What size room are you putting it in? High or low ceilings? Inside or outside use, or both? Do you want the really serious bass for dancing (I can have that,, since I live in the country), or just decent bass for karaoke purposes?

Personally, I like the combination of a Yamaha EMX312SC powered mixer and BR12 speakers for a home system. You can get them new for $870. Add a Shure SM58 wired mic for $100, a couple of Behringer XM8500 wired mics for $40, and connect it all to your computer with Winamp and karaoke plugins. Then add some cables the SuperCore and Dangerous sets for starter music, and you will have spent $1200 and have a really serious system you will be able to use for a long time.

The above system will blow away VocoPro stuff in sound quality.

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VocoPro is overpriced for the features it has, and the quality of the sound coming from the components is also lacking. From what I've heard there is also a reliability issue.

You need a live mixer with vocal effects(echo, delay, reverb, chorus). Something basic with eight channels won't cost you and arm and a leg. Use wired mics, and a single (or even a pair!!) amplified speaker... maybe a 12" JBL Eon speaker (I've been looking at those recently), and you could get by for less than a grand.

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A nice inexpensive mixer, fine for home use, but with professinal features:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-MG82 ... 1172629.gc

Professional sound, great for a small venue, easily working for basement or home club setting:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/JBL-EON10-G ... 1152795.gc

A karaoke player on sale!!!

http://www.acekaraoke.com/iview-3000kr- ... layer.html

Cueing speed probably isn't important for home use, so this should do nicely.

A very nice sounding rugged mic that won't break the bank, grab a 2 or 3:

http://www.acekaraoke.com/hshumppg58.html

Don't forget a speaker stand, and some mic stands, and karaoke discs. This system is less than a grand and will provide YEARS of quality sound, play and enjoyment.

It wouldn't be all that bad to get a second speaker, and you could play in a fairly large size room... your now at around $1100 and you technically have a REAL professional karaoke system... and this system would make Vocopro crap sound like a 2 tin cans and string! :D

Here's a piece of equipment that also will add awesome sound quality to the overall system:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/BBE-482i-So ... 1125105.gc

When cuing music, the recording levels, base and soforth vary from recording to recording. EQs are practically useless for karaoke applications. The Maximizer will add crisp low contour and clean highs to both your music and vocals, and allow you to adjust in seconds from recording to recording. Now you're at $1200, and I'd say any one of us would enjoy singing on this.

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THanks for all the info. I thin I need to learn some more abou t all this gear before I go spending a bunch of money. I have VocoPro Gigman, I turn it on when freidns come over to party an I can have to kick people out to get any rest. Everyone just goes nuts singing. I have abou t 2500 songs so I have a little something for everyone. I want to get a big system becuase it just seems like it would be fun to have. My game is not that big onlly about 15 x 25 or so.

I went ot a local Guitar Center to see if theywoudl show me what the Sonic Maximizer does, they wanted to sell me a Eq instead. I am gonna go back to see if they will show me.

I am gonna read through all the post here and maybe post again for soem more help, but really thanks for giving me some direction.


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Low frequency sounds, mids and high frequency sounds do not travel through the air at the same speed so reach the ear at different times, taking away from the recorded experience. The sonic maximizer delays them so they reach your ear at the same time... giving you pounding base and crisp clean highs.

as a KJ, this mean that with four knobs you can quickly adjust the lows and highs of your mix.... i.e. quickly.

I leave the EQ settings on my board level, and adjust from the maximizer....

It also helps with the vocals and the overall sound of your music.

Just get it.

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