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outlaw
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:47 pm |
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I pose this question because I was asked by a bar owner tonight if "I was licenced and paid the licencing fee's to do Karaoke in bars". Now, I was under the impression that it was the bars responsibility to get the proper licencing agreements to have karaoke &/or live entertainment in their establishment. Am I correct in this assumption? I really hope so because in the 7 years I have been doing this, this is the first time this particular question has been posed to me. I know that certain laws vary in each state, but shouldn't the BMI & ASCAP laws be the same?, or is this a seperate entity from the ones governing the "live entertainment" laws?
Any and all responses would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
Jay
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timberlea
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:22 am |
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It is the bar's responsibility.
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outlaw
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:18 am |
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what would be the specific licence that they would need to get?
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:48 am |
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BeachHeadBum
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:34 am |
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Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:37 pm Posts: 881 Location: Taos, NM Been Liked: 0 time
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Now actually in a "stand alone bar" or hotel it is the venue's responsibility. when you do karaoke venues like convention centers, private ballrooms and the like The KJ is responsible. I have had 2 near brushes with this issue myself. I hold "special event" licenses for these cases and it's worth it to CYOA. And to investigate the venues' licence situation before accepting a booking or finding out you are in violation. nothing is worse than losing a nice $1,500.00+ wedding's profit to a fine to a butthead because a venue weren't licenced or you didn't do your homework.
Go have fun and play now!
_________________ Brian D.
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Buzz
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:36 am |
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What is the cost of a license for karaoke? I know it will vary from area to area, but is there a cost range???
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BeachHeadBum
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:45 pm |
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Contact ASCAP, BMI & SESAC. They vary by the Venue's Capacity. (Fire Code)
_________________ Brian D.
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Capt Midnight
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:33 am |
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ummm the venue is the one responsible for the license..... If you are doing a private party/wedding (not open to somebody without invitation) you DO NOT NEED A LICENSE; it is not a public function
Now if you are playing at a street fair you DO NEED to get a license as the KJ
If a venue does not have a license, you as the KJ are NOT subject to be fined..... that would be like saying the band should check to be sure the bar has a valid live entertainment license..... that is the venue's job to have that license paid
the ASCAP, SESAC and BMI licensing is only for a public performance.
Next thing I am going to hear is my backyard bar-b-que when i turn the stereo on i need a license
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BeachHeadBum
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:47 am |
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No Midnight,
I would not tell ya that.. but maybe Mutt Lange (Shania's hubby & Producer) would if ya had Shania's CD playing over and over from a local radio station.
_________________ Brian D.
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