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fsapienjr
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I have to agree with Lonman. You get what you pay for. I too get my cables from guitar center, and always get the ones that have a lifetime warranty. I know you're talking mic cables, I use Monster, but last week I took in my 3 year old speaker cables, they started losing signal. I found out that the bannana clip side has a screw that holds the wire in place. All four of these screws was missing. If I knew they were there, I would have tightened them.
I took these cables back to guitar center without a reciept, and even though I really only really needed the four screws, I got two brand new cables. I was out of there in less than 5 minutes. Guaranteed for life occasionally really means for life.
I do believe the quality cables do improve the sound over cheaper ones, but the main reason I spend the extra money once for the good stuff is the durability factor.
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Lonman
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mckyj57 @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:26 pm wrote: TopherM @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:58 pm wrote: $29.99 for Monster Basic XLR cables from Sam Ash with lifetime warranty. So for $60.00, I have two that they replace for free at the store whenever I want. I bought those cables back in 2003, and have replaced 5 cables over that time. So, I have spent $60.00 plus about $10.00 in gas (Sam Ash is about 15 miles from my house). So I have spent $70.00. If you don't have a store near you, or just don't want to drive, you can send them into Monster and get new ones back in the mail in about 2-3 weeks.
You spent $99.00 for 18 cables that will eventually, one by one, go bad and need to be replaced with more $99.00 cables. That is "not a paying proposition" compared to the Monster cables, or any others with a lifetime warranty. Why would you think Whirlwind cables are going to go bad? They are a good brand, Whirlwind snakes are top notch. Haven't had one go yet. They are not like those cheap cables you buy at GC or Sam Ash. Those are awful -- wouldn't take one if you paid me to do so. As far as replacing them, I live 50 miles from Sam Ash or Guitar Center, and rarely get there. I do everything by mail order. Not only that, I pay myself $25.00 an hour minimum for my time, since I work for myself. If it takes me three hours and 100 miles at even a cheap 38cents a mile, I can buy the $99.00 cables and have them shipped to my door for what it costs me to go replace one that cost me $30.00 in the first place. All cables will eventually go bad - even if they aren't moved. You can send them back via mail as well. Any online retailer that sells these should honor the lifetime warranty. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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karyoker
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My criteria for mic or speaker cables is the XLR connectors. Does the the female mic connector feel sloppy or lose in the mic? Canon plugs have very tight specs and all pros or engineers have depended uopon them for years. The same with Beldin cable. You can harp about Mogami or guitar center all you want but if you are an audiophile or engineer then you build your own from a 1000 ft spool. My mic cables last because I know how to build them and use the right lengths of each lead soldered to the plugs.
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Lonman
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karyoker @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:06 pm wrote: My criteria for mic or speaker cables is the XLR connectors. Does the the female mic connector feel sloppy or lose in the mic? Canon plugs have very tight specs and all pros or engineers have depended uopon them for years. The same with Beldin cable. You can harp about Mogami or guitar center all you want but if you are an audiophile or engineer then you build your own from a 1000 ft spool. My mic cables last because I know how to build them and use the right lengths of each lead soldered to the plugs.
I can build my own as well, just choose not to. Don't have the time most of the time. Again why pay for something over & over when you can pay for it once & never again. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Quote: karyoker @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:06 pm wrote:
My criteria for mic or speaker cables is the XLR connectors. Does the the female mic connector feel sloppy or lose in the mic? Canon plugs have very tight specs and all pros or engineers have depended uopon them for years. The same with Beldin cable. You can harp about Mogami or guitar center all you want but if you are an audiophile or engineer then you build your own from a 1000 ft spool. My mic cables last because I know how to build them and use the right lengths of each lead soldered to the plugs.
I can build my own as well, just choose not to. Don't have the time most of the time. Again why pay for something over & over when you can pay for it once & never again.
 Lonnie if I ever make it to your show and if you dont have the right mic cables I flat refuse to sing and I will sit at the bar and pout..
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Micky
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Lonman @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:58 pm wrote: mckyj57 @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:26 pm wrote: TopherM @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:58 pm wrote: $29.99 for Monster Basic XLR cables from Sam Ash with lifetime warranty. So for $60.00, I have two that they replace for free at the store whenever I want. I bought those cables back in 2003, and have replaced 5 cables over that time. So, I have spent $60.00 plus about $10.00 in gas (Sam Ash is about 15 miles from my house). So I have spent $70.00. If you don't have a store near you, or just don't want to drive, you can send them into Monster and get new ones back in the mail in about 2-3 weeks.
You spent $99.00 for 18 cables that will eventually, one by one, go bad and need to be replaced with more $99.00 cables. That is "not a paying proposition" compared to the Monster cables, or any others with a lifetime warranty. Why would you think Whirlwind cables are going to go bad? They are a good brand, Whirlwind snakes are top notch. Haven't had one go yet. They are not like those cheap cables you buy at GC or Sam Ash. Those are awful -- wouldn't take one if you paid me to do so. As far as replacing them, I live 50 miles from Sam Ash or Guitar Center, and rarely get there. I do everything by mail order. Not only that, I pay myself $25.00 an hour minimum for my time, since I work for myself. If it takes me three hours and 100 miles at even a cheap 38cents a mile, I can buy the $99.00 cables and have them shipped to my door for what it costs me to go replace one that cost me $30.00 in the first place. All cables will eventually go bad - even if they aren't moved. You can send them back via mail as well. Any online retailer that sells these should honor the lifetime warranty. I'm just curious to know how a cable can go bad if it's never been moved??? I'm still new to this and I'm sure you've seen it happen if you say that, but just wondering why and how this can happen 
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Lonman
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Micky @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:54 pm wrote: Lonman @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:58 pm wrote: mckyj57 @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:26 pm wrote: TopherM @ Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:58 pm wrote: $29.99 for Monster Basic XLR cables from Sam Ash with lifetime warranty. So for $60.00, I have two that they replace for free at the store whenever I want. I bought those cables back in 2003, and have replaced 5 cables over that time. So, I have spent $60.00 plus about $10.00 in gas (Sam Ash is about 15 miles from my house). So I have spent $70.00. If you don't have a store near you, or just don't want to drive, you can send them into Monster and get new ones back in the mail in about 2-3 weeks.
You spent $99.00 for 18 cables that will eventually, one by one, go bad and need to be replaced with more $99.00 cables. That is "not a paying proposition" compared to the Monster cables, or any others with a lifetime warranty. Why would you think Whirlwind cables are going to go bad? They are a good brand, Whirlwind snakes are top notch. Haven't had one go yet. They are not like those cheap cables you buy at GC or Sam Ash. Those are awful -- wouldn't take one if you paid me to do so. As far as replacing them, I live 50 miles from Sam Ash or Guitar Center, and rarely get there. I do everything by mail order. Not only that, I pay myself $25.00 an hour minimum for my time, since I work for myself. If it takes me three hours and 100 miles at even a cheap 38cents a mile, I can buy the $99.00 cables and have them shipped to my door for what it costs me to go replace one that cost me $30.00 in the first place. All cables will eventually go bad - even if they aren't moved. You can send them back via mail as well. Any online retailer that sells these should honor the lifetime warranty. I'm just curious to know how a cable can go bad if it's never been moved??? I'm still new to this and I'm sure you've seen it happen if you say that, but just wondering why and how this can happen Don't know, just knows it happens. Like I said my rig is stationary, never gets moved & a couple of processor cables need to be replaced. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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karaoke for food.....
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:05 am |
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I use Canare Quad, and the Mogami Neglex2534 Quad Microphone cable. This cable is made specifically for microphone use. I was taught how to solder years ago while working for the telephone company back in the 70's. I wouldn't even think of buying a premade mic cable. The ones you build yourself are always better. Buy good cable like karyoker, and i suggest. Buy at least a 60 watt or hotter iron, and practice. You will be a pro in no time. Keep your solder joints hot, and remember to heat the work, NOT the solder. Use only switchcraft, or Neutrik connectors. Let us know how you're doing if you decide to try building your own. It's enjoyable for me to build all my own cables, and i know they're made right, and built to last. And in MHO, the ONLY way for a microphone cable to go bad, is poor cable, poor construction, or some clown steps on it and yanks it from the plug. 
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karaoke for food..... @ Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:05 pm wrote: I use Canare Quad, and the Mogami Neglex2534 Quad Microphone cable. This cable is made specifically for microphone use. I was taught how to solder years ago while working for the telephone company back in the 70's. I wouldn't even think of buying a premade mic cable. The ones you build yourself are always better. Buy good cable like karyoker, and i suggest. Buy at least a 60 watt or hotter iron, and practice. You will be a pro in no time. Keep your solder joints hot, and remember to heat the work, NOT the solder. Use only switchcraft, or Neutrik connectors. Let us know how you're doing if you decide to try building your own. It's enjoyable for me to build all my own cables, and i know they're made right, and built to last. And in MHO, the ONLY way for a microphone cable to go bad, is poor cable, poor construction, or some clown steps on it and yanks it from the plug. Thanks for the nice tips, I guess that at 139 of age, you kind of know what you're talking about 
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wow, ive been away for a month or so and ive missed a lot..I used to swear by monster. ive got a bunch of there mic cables, and speaker cables ect. ive found that even tho monster has a better warranty than my live wire cables, ive never had to replace a live wire and they work just like they did new, yet almost all of my monster (100 and 500 series) have been replaced at least once. after a while the connections in the plugs seem to go to pot. I get new ones free, but Im starting to think the bunch of whirlwind cables for $100 is a better deal. part of what is changing my mind on this is that I am going to start doing sound for bands again. there is no warranty on the cable that disappears.
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