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Yes, essentially you can do all those things in Compuhost.

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You obviousely have not even tried it out, but in answer to your questions...



YES!



YES! Although they originally supported drag and drop, too many users that unintentionally drag their mouse were unintentionally repositioning singers, so they changed the process to four simple buttons to the left of the list, UP, DOWN, TOP, BOTTOM.


See answer above.



CompuHost employs a MUCH more powerful AutoPlay feature than most, and YES, the host has the option of automatically removing singers witout additional songs in queue after their performance.



Yes, including an optional Onscreen Timer counting down the time the next performance will automatically start, all configurable of course.



The next revision promised out within a week or so adds this ability!



Some windows yes, some no.



Yes!

Now regarding the software you use...

Does it allow MORE than one request per singer?
Does it constantly display the ENTIRE rotation to the audience, even during an ongoing performance?
Does it provide a means for constantly promoting club drink specials etc onscreen?
Does it allow for multiple definable Slide Shows?
Does it provide seamless Filler Music between performances, including seamless fading between both the Karaoke and Filler and the actual Filler songs themselves, in other words, is the Filler Music player an actual DUAL-DECK, cross-fading player?
Does it provide a Solo Mode allowing use by Solo users, not requiring an additional monitor to view FULL SCREEN lyrics display?
Does it allow you to flag a singer as inactive, preserving their spot in the rotation while NOT removing them entirely?
Does it offer Global Hot-Key support, in other words, trapping hot keys and reacting to them even when the software is NOT in focus?

Enough questions, I'm just trying to point out that each software choice provides different features and functionality, some MORE than others. As you've stated, the choice is with the user, depending on their needs.

If it works for you then use it. But please do not promulgate the the theory that it is the only way or best way. It is very limited by my standards and I have no control over it to apply to my many formats or shows. I do things besides karaoke in bars and need a system or software I can change on a dime. I have run computer systems for ten years and tried them all. This old pioneer prefers Roxbox for certain reasons and yall are so biased that you dont even understand

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So because I saw fit to point out someone's hypocrisy I now have a sour attitude?
Someone saw fit to knock the software I use for illigitimate reasons, some being the developers' forum and "they constantly use childlike grammar, expletives, and four letter words, not to mention their latest childish rant! "
And they did it with the very "sour attitude" you accuse me of having.
I don't see that as an equitable reason to dismiss the software and saw fit to remind them that this forum can be just the same at times. Doesn't mean there's nothing of value here, just as their software does a great job at what it was designed to do.
Like begets like, jreynolds.
Speak to me with a "sour attitude", you likely will get one back.
Speak to me nicely and you get that back too.
It's called normal human relations.
So no sour attitude. Just truth.
I stand by my statements.

I am willing to listen...please make me understand. I just switched off RoxBox to Compuhost. Did I make a mistake? What exactly are your "certain reasons"?

Please educate me oh wise Yoda!

I really considered shifting to Compuhosgt a one time. I am 69 cant see or hear anymore With Rox I can change the font size where I am not squinting at some postage stamp size search window. For my high paced format Rox is the only one that keeps pace and I can tailor it for my needs. I can use bells and whistles or ignore them and go go go with no silence and provide a very high energy show.

Three or four years ago I shifted from Sax-n Dotty to Rox and went thru all the growing pains and initial bugs. We developed it over a period of time and I can convert it to Linux. I have talked to Frank several times over the phone and some day when I go to Dallas and party with Chuck and Gigi and Isis I will go to one of his shows and meet Frank. He is a friend and as such I will support him 100%.

Compuhost. Siglo, Hoster and others are good software and when one chooses he picks the one that meets his needs.

Now I will tell a big dark secret Whether you have a mediocre system or using any software. If you know how to get the most out of it and know PR and how to put on a show and present entertainment then these arguments are mute.

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I really have to jump in here and defend Toqer and the whole autOkdj bunch. Of course they're unprofessional. It's freeware. How can you be professional if you're giving something away? It's freeware. There isn't even a reason for them to have a forum. It's freeware. He can rant childishly or in any other way that suites him and it's all the same because...it's freeware.

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At this point in time, I don't know what a kj would want that compuhost doesn't offer for karaoke performances. However I can see the point about launching a singer's performance from their spot in the rotation and compuhost puts them at the top (after asking). Is this really such a big deal? I just selected a singer that wasn't at the top for the next performance. After they were moved to the top, I used the buttons to move them back while the song was playing. Took about 2 seconds. Not an exageration. Maybe compuhost will take care of this but if this is the basis to make a decision on what software to get, I think that is a mistake.

Thank you, exweedfarmer.

A decision is based on feature that one actually needs & uses. The rotation feature does not fit my needs in any manner. As a matter of fact it's more of a hinderance because I don't want the singer to keep popping to the top. I want a straight line list the will scroll down, not move. CH does not and is not capable of that.

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Very true. Might be a good option to see if they can do it since they're very open to suggestions. Make a big list and just highlight the current singer in the rotation? Hmmm, wonder if it's worth the feature request?

I would seriously consider taking a look at the program again if it could be set where the singer list doesn't move, but new singers can still be added & a song can be played without popping a singer to the top of the list.
For those who don't need or want 'rotation management', this would be a good feature.

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i am not dismissing the software. It is a good software. That they can decide to pick and choose who they give the software to is what I have against them as I have no means of getting any updates of the software should I decide to go with it. I actually like a major feature, how it handles fill music, better than compuhost personally. I also like the lockout feature as it would save me from having to deal with customers that want one more song by saying "sorry but my program won't let me do that".
I could also use kiosks with it to enter songs into the system.

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It's their software and yes, they get to pick and choose who they GIVE it to.
Same as any "for profit" software, the deciding factor being that the "for profits" choose to give it to people who PAY. The principle of choosing who gets it is the same, just the criteria for giving it differs. As for getting updates, all you have to do is what they ask. Go to the chat room they have designated, meet them and talk to them a bit and they will eventually give it to you. Or you could talk nice to someone who already has the program and get it that way.
But really, updates are a moot point at this time since they've taken it to a new dimension with touch screen capabilities. The v1 rc 2 version is the final release of the program as we now know it. There won't be any more updates.
And yes, the kiosks really are the BOMB!

For me it is. When I am busy and need to skip people because they are in the bathroom or otherwise temporarily indisposed, the last thing I need to do is to move the person to the top, try to remember where where they belong in the original rotation and then take the extra step (or two) and the time to move them back IF I can remember where they go. Then add in the fact that two or more people in a row may need to be skipped and it's a recipe for rotation disaster. And no, I no longer keep a written rotation as Autokdj does such a good job of keeping my rotation order the way I want that it's just another step I don't need to do. I would rather cut my arm off than to have to start writing down my rotation again just so I could use some software that really doesn't do all I need and want it to do.
The kiosk advantage outweighs anything Compuhost can offer me and the rigid rotation it creates makes it all the more unattractive.

When a singer finishes their turn they "rotate" to the bottom of the rotation (that's why it's called a "rotation"), then the next performer takes the top spot and everyone below them moves up one. I fail to see how this is so complicated...

As for diafel's constant assertion that CompuHost is not flexible, it allows you to put a new singer ANYWHERE you wish in the rotation, you can freely move ANY singer ANYWHERE in the rotation. You can delete, rename, add, deactivate, activate, what are you talking about????

The fact is, if you're not looking for rotation management, automated filler music, visble rotation ticker, slide show presentations, instant applause and sound bits, onscreen visual splash screens, autorecording, singer history, then CompuHost is not for you, just settle for a less feature rich alternative. In my area, CompuHost wins hands down! In fact, out of the 12 hosts I know of locally, 7 are using CompuHost, one Hoster, two S&D, and two are still disc based. NO ONE is using AutoKDJ, speaks for itself.

I'm curious Danny, how does it handle Filler music that makes it better than CompuHost? My experience with any winamp frontend or plugin, is that since it is a single player, the fading is subpar at best, each requiring a second instance of winamp to even do that. And I mean the filler songs themselves, not just fading from a Karaoke song to filler.

Let me try to be more clear and perhaps if I'm not, Lon can jump in and help out because I think we may run our rotations very similarly, and I also think he understands what my concerns are.
When I want to move a singer, I want to move them ONLY for that round, not each subsequent round as well, especially if they have more than one song in already.
I don't want to have to mess around with moving them back where they originally were for the subsequent rounds. My program will allow me to go to the playlist and click ANY song enqued there and play it without having to move a thing, never mind having to move it back when I'm done.
No having to manually move singers up then down again in order to keep the rotation straight. Just click the name of the song no matter where it is in the rotation and it plays. I can then go back to the top and play those songs that were skipped and continue as seamlessly as if nothing had happened.
Not sure if you understand what my concern is, but I simply don't want to have to click a bunch of times to do something as simple as skipping a singer or two. I also don't want said singer to have their position changed in subsequent rotations, I just want it changed for only THAT one.
Also, with my program, I just enter the specifications of how I want my entries handled and it does it automatically. I don't have to think about it.
My program will automatically put my singers where I specify they should be based on criteria I set.
For example, I can specify that I want new singers preferred in rotation and BAM! new singers automatically go to the top. Subsequent songs entered by that "new" singer will put them in their "proper" spot in subsequent rotations and I don't need to think about it. It just does it for me. That's just one simple example, but there are dozens of other criteria I can set for the way I want my rotation to be handled. It's not just one developer's idea of what a rotation should be, but allows ME to specify what the rotation should be.
"Set it and forget it".

Now, tbreen, if you would quit editing your posts and adding substantially to them I could, perhaps reply to all you say in one post. But alas!

One of the things I AM looking for IS rotation management and that's exactly what my original question was about. And as answered, it doesn't do what I require it to do, while my current program, AutoKDJ does. Seems simple enough to me.


No one here drives Porches around either. Doesn't mean they're bad cars...
Just means people chose something else for whatever reason...


PS: Let me also ask you, tbreen, Have you even USED Autokdj? If so, did you give it a fair shake or just junk it first day?
Sounds to me like you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to that proggie. If you did, then you would know that it has good value, even more so when you consider that it's FREE.

"mess around"? As I stated in an earlier post. If for whatever reason, you need to play a singer out of rotation, simply click on their name, and hit go. This is where the problem lies, now they are at the top. but within 2 seconds from hitting go, you have them right back where they were in their rotation. 2 seconds. Highly unlikely their song has even begun again. They stay there. They don't move from that spot again, unless you move them. And personally, if you have to do this " a bunch" of times in your show, maybe you should ask people to respect your rotation and do their best to be there when it is their turn. That's one of the good things about compuhost, they can track how long it is until their turn from the scrolling marquee. Again,,, 2 seconds.

But, if this is considered too big of an incovenience to you, I respect that, to each his/her own.