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I understand that, singer moves to the bottom, everyone moves up. I don't want it to do that. I want a static list that will jump to the next singer without moving anything. Not complicated at all, just doesn't do what I want it to do.

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I would think this would be a fairly simple feature request. A setup option. Instead of rotating the name on the list, rotate the "who's singing now" rotation break pointer.

I know Compuhost has a suggestions forum...

If it could have a "Hoster emulation mode" it would be good. I actually use Hoster (the 3.x version I had bought a few years ago) for practice, simply because of its ability to save and recall lists of songs. With CompuHost, you have to find it in the history and/or songlist every time, and you can't easily recall a constructed list of songs.

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And having been a CompuHost fan since it was first released, how would this in anyway enhance CH? CH is not a "playlist" manager like Hoster, it's a "rotation manager". If you don't like it, find something that better fits your needs.

If you make this suggestion on the CH forum I'll be the first to rebuke it! It has to be the MOST ridiculous issue I think I've read to date regarding CH.

I do know that they are about to release yet another revision (another great plus with CH, regular revisions) that adds immediately available history, listed just as the current Song Queue, with the ability to launch a performance directly from the history list, no more having to search and add from history.

A feature allowing for saved playlists might be favorable, but a "Hoster Emulation Mode"? That's like asking Rolls Royce to emulate a Volkswagen! (My opinion of course).

Nonetheless, I have made the suggestion.

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The problem is that I must put them back manually IF I remember where they go. Unless, of course, I start keeping a hand written record of my rotation. And yes, I may have to do more than one at a time. The program I use does it automatically AND creates rotations according to MY rules, not someone else's. This is the issue I have.

My singers DO respect the rotation, but they ARE human.
Things happen, as in the case of one of my singers collapsing outside last Thursday. Three of my other singers stayed outside helping him while we waited for the ambulance to arrive. Were they not respecting my rotation? Should I have told them that they should get their priorities straight and get in there and sing?

Sometimes things happen that are beyond our control.
I just allow for such instances and want my program to be able to easily adapt to such an instance. Is that so wrong?
Really, it's not that hard to do. Any grade school programmer should be able to handle coding it.
Sometimes there's a lineup at the bathroom (ALWAYS for the womens!) and sometimes more than one singer is stuck in that lineup. So if Singer #1 gets called and doesn't show right away, then I call singer #2. Well singer #2 figures they have at least another 5 minutes or so before their turn so they're outside smoking or whatever. So I call singer #3. Same thing they're outside, in the Loo, or otherwise disposed. Does this mean they don't respect my rotation? Certainly not! and especially so in the case of singers 2, 3 and so on. They were called up before their turn. Again, not their fault.
Compuhost apparently can't do what I want it to do in an effortless way. Does that make it a bad program?
No.
But it does mean that I won't be using it until they change that issue.

And really, I don't need the scrolling marquee to let my singers know when it's their turn. They KNOW all on their own because of the way I run it.
The problem, I guess, is that I live in the real world and I understand that things happen and that we need to be able to be flexible and adjust to those situations.
A program as rigid with rotation as Compuhost appears to be simply doesn't suit my needs.

Enhancements are in the eye of the beholder. I see NO reason to have auto fade-in-out filler music. I am sure there are others that love it however.



And nothing would change with regard to rotations. Only the method by which they are displayed (if I understand Lon's suggestion). Instead of rotating the names, you are simply rotating the highlite marker. The end result is exactly the same. It's purely a UI change.



Wow. I don't understand why you are so violently opposed to what is essentially a very minor option suggestion. All software can be improved and be more flexible...Compuhost included.



I certainly hope the coders at Invicion don't share this opinion. When you start telling people what they need, instead of listening to what they want, it's certain death for a software product in a competitive arena.

Oh, and tbreen: I noticed that you decidedly ignored my question regarding your experience with Autokdj, so I will ask again.
Have you ever used Autokdj, and if so for how long before you decided that there was no value in it?

I NEVER said "it had NO value", those are YOUR words! You have an uncanny knack at twisting words! I will say, and you can quote me, "after trying it (AutoKDJ) I found it had LITTLE value when compared to the software I currently use (CompuHost)."

I was first turned off to the whole AutoKDJ by the developer's childish and "I know everything" attitude. One of his first rantings was on the former JOLT forum, where he stated that "all of the other software developers are "idiots" (his exact words), because the REAL money is in selling content". Well, we now see who was the IDIOT don't we? His childish attitude continued on his forums, and now is topped by his latest ranting, with a pointed middle finger at anyone who visits the page, yea real mature!

I guess it's more of a moral issue than any "value" the product may have, I run my businesses professionally, and will NOT do business (even though it was marketed as FREE, he was looking to profit from content sales) with someone as unprofessional and childish as the developer of AutoKDJ.

Is that good enough for you? If not, oh well, no reason to comment further.

No, it's not good enough for me because you STILL haven't answered the question: HAVE YOU EVER USED IT?
If not, then you have no business criticizing the program itself and saying it has little value.
PS: Sorry for "twisting" your words and forgive me for paraphrasing. (even though I disagree about the "twisting" part. Wasn't my intention at all and I'm sure everyone here can see that. They're not stupid, you know.)
I should know better than to be so human.

Well they've proven that they listen to their users, as evidenced by the numerous feature enhancements since its debut. However, as they have explained on their forums, "feature enhancements are weighed against user friendliness, impact on resources, cost of implementation, and most of all, popularity and overall advantageous value of the enhancement".

CompuHost is not CUSTOM SOFTWARE, for that you'll pay thousands of dollars. As with ANY successfull product, the target market is first determined, and then the product needs/hopes to satisfy the needs of the "majority of the" target market. It is IMPOSSIBLE for any product to satisfy the needs of everyone, that's why consumers have choices. You seem to feel that they MUST institute anything, anyone suggests or they are in for "certain death", nonsense.

Let me quote my previous reply so that after reading it twice you might get it...



Please pay particular attention to the "after trying it" part!

Exactly why I did find something that fit my needs & don't understand why there is an arguement about it - the program did not fit MY needs.


Ridiciulous to you, but important to someone that might want to go to CH but this is the only thing hindering it. If you feel that strongly against a simple OPTION, then there is no point in even suggesting this as a possible option for them. Thus the program will never suit my needs & will never move to it.

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EXACTLY!

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Hopefully he isn't on the CH staff.

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and now let me make a little quote from one of my previous posts:

Please pay particular attention to the "If so, did you give it a fair shake or just junk it first day?" part.
It was a fair question which you appear to have sidestepped even though I've asked you several times.
Seems to me you dismiss the program based soley on what you think is the immature attitudes of the developers. You have the right to base your opinion on whatever criteria you choose.
But at least say so openly and don't try to mislead others into thinking you actually know the program inside and out. It's obvious you don't.

Lon I did talk to Frank on the LL yesterday. The auto rotation thing would not be a problem with reprogamming whatsoever. It took me a long time to regulate rotation by the computer and not by slips. I know wat you are going thru.

When I first started there was only one option. Cavs It paid for my current system. The first initial investment in software was about $150. Since then I have probably spent 10 times that much and I could use any system on the market. However I hire and train hosts. I need something that software is not the issue and something I can have them using in 5 minutes. There are many reasons for using different proggies and this thread has turned into a childish argument.

If you are offended by what people say then I would suggest China or some other country that does not allow people to express themself. In the meantime WELCOME TO AMERICA

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Lon, I am not afilliated with CH in any way, other than being a very satisfied and loyal user. With that said, after reading my previous reply, it does come off as something different than intended.

My comment, "find something that better fits your needs" was not meant to imply that they have a "take it or leave it" attitude, in fact quite the opposite. They have demonstrated an incredible reputation for listening to their users, and my loyalty is due in part to just that. What I meant to say, is that different products may be targeted to different users, just as different automobiles are targeted toward different users. A Chevy may fully meet the needs of one, while a Ford another, thank god we have the choice. The point is, no product can/will satisfy the needs of everyone, and as such all I was trying to say is CompuHost may not be the best product for your way of running your show. Simple as that.

Now we'll wait for someone to twist my words and change what I'm trying to say...1...2...3

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