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...they come in HW and SW forms...I have an old Thompson VE-3+ and have tried a couple SW programs..not too up to date on the latest...IMHO at best they work "ok"...at worst they are totally worthless..but..it is such a compelling thing for songs that are not avialable yet (or perhaps never will be) on karaoke..they continue to be an interesting thing to keep tabs on.
ANybody got one that works well?

the satisfactory result has less to do with the software or hardware and more to do with the track itself...
the more efx used on the track you are trying to devocalise, the less likely the result will be satisfactory. Also, you will have less success with an mp3 of a lesser bitrate (anything under 192kbps is largely a waste of time) than you will with a high bitrate or a wav file.

I have totally devocalised one or two tracks easily, one or two others have been usable and others have been a waste of my time...so as I said it is more to do with the track than with the software you use.

A friend of mine devocalises and has fantastic sucess, but he goes to the effort of rebuilding the other music tracks (bass, drums) that are affected by the devocalisation...the result with many of his tracks are clean, pristine, totally usable tracks....*sigh* I am so glad he is my friend

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Nope. I will be looking for it right after they solve perpetual motion.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

If the vocals are center track these programs will be worthless. If they are upper and lower track they may work to some extent, but you will lose some of the music track as well.

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The programs are worthless, period. Behringer has a "vocal eliminator" button on a bunch of their mixers now, and that is worthless as well. There are but two possible outcomes from their use: 1) song that still has tons of vocals; or 2) song that sounds like it's being played through speakers with blown woofers.

One thing I found interesting when I was searching the Internet a few months ago, is you can buy professional backing tracks online. Some of them are even mixed from the real studio sessions by the original artist/musicians. I do not remember the sites I was looking at, but one was for like commercials and radio ads and such and you had to give them a lot of information for them to decide how much to charge (so probably expensive) but another was pretty cheap, like under $10, I think it varied by song.

I did not buy any of them because I did not know if it would be legal for me to then add CDG graphics to them, and $10 plus a time investment in making the CDG would be a lot of money and work just to satisfy one singer's request. But if the person knows the song well enough to sing it without the lyric screen, maybe this is a possibility you should look into. If I stumble across the web site again I will post it here. I bet a google for "backing tracks" will get you there eventually.

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Ok...just thought I'd ask...never hurts..appreciate the comments...

Actually the more centered the better. How these programs work is by phase cancellation of like frequencies in each channel. The more dead center a vocal in, the better chance of cancellation will occur. However on the downside, any instrument that is also center panned - usually bass guitar, kick drum, snare drum, some guitar solos, etc. will also be cancelled out. The more off center these tracks are panned, or if the vocals are purposely delayed by a millisecond or 2 (for effect) is where the eliminator will not do any good. Anything mono recorded will not work at all.

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that was my understanding too Lonnie.

Chet dont lose heart, play around with stuff, or send me songs and let me see what I can do for you. Cos the same doesnt apply for all songs and for all products. Like I said its trial and error. If you listen to the song Joyce subbed "I believe in you" it devocalised really really well

So dont let the holier than thou put you off, some work some dont.

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Thanks Lon. I'm an idiot, and reversed the post. Absolutely correct.

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