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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:26 pm |
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I have been asked by a local real estate company if I would like to help up their hit rate on google. The long way is to google ashburton real estate, select the company I am wanting, then once I have been there, disconnect my router to reset it, thereby giving me a new ip and doing it all over again. Google only counts individual ips, not hits made by the same ip over and over again.
Its a bloody boring way to earn a bit of dosh, so my question is...
is there a piece of software that will do it for me? hitting google multiple times with different ips without resetting the router?
I mean I dont mind doing it, but she is only paying $20 per day so if I can purchase software that will do it for me it would be better cos resetting my router every couple of minutes is kinda interrupting other things.
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sw00000p
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:13 pm |
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I'd be very interesting to hear someone answer this in Detail... in this Open Forum!
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:49 am |
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dont quite understand swoop, are you criticising my choice of forum to ask?
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Bazza
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:30 am |
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MorganLeFey @ Fri May 08, 2009 12:26 am wrote: disconnect my router to reset it, thereby giving me a new ip
It doesn't work this way. You will only (potentially) get a new IP address when your DHCP lease expires.
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Murray C
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:02 am |
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Would it not be better to figure out how to get the Google search engine to recognise the company's website as a more relevant choice to the search criteria of NZ real estate?
As I understand it, Google lists the "results" in order of the most relevent content of the website. A listing on the first page of the search results is more likely to get a hit on the website. So, the more relevant the content of the website is to the search criteria, the more likely it will be for the website to get hits.
Solution would therefore be to add content to the company's website which will make Google think it is most relevant to the search criteria.
Note: The above may be a total crock of balony as I really don't have any idea how Google determines what results go to the top of the list. All I know is that it's usually not the one's I want and I have to search through a multitude of pages of result to find the site I'm looking for!
EDIT: You could try adding a page to the company's website that is filled with sex and pornography... bound to get more hits then!
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Michaelangelo1
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:03 am |
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I have the exact solutions for you.
First of all, you can improve their website itself by putting keywords into it. Many website design tools (I personally use "Website Tonight" at godaddy.com) give you tools to insert keywords into the webpage. The more relevant keywords, the more the search engines will pick up the page.
Next, make sure the website is submitted manually to as many search engines as possible. You can do many of these individually for free, you can also submit to many of them at once for free at sites like submitexpress.com. They will offer to submit to more search engines for a fee, but usually that is not necessary.
Search engines pick up the URLs eventually anyway, but this will speed up the process.
Next, I would suggest checking out VFLYER.COM. It has many tools, especially nice tools for real estate pros. You can create 2 flyers for FREE. You can post these graphics laden, professional looking flyers on craiglist for free to get more exposure and draw people to the website. If it doesn't draw more attention, just drop it. If it does, they may consider purchasing the more feature-rich product. Keep in mind that Google regularly scans craigslist and other sites and creates new links for the craigslist ads.
Finally, I would strongly suggest purchasing some GOOGLE ADWORDS. Basically, you write little tiny ads that appear on the right hand side in google searches when the ADWORDS YOU CHOOSE are chosen.
ADWORDS IS FREE TO USE. You create the ad(s), and they link to your website. YOU ONLY GET CHARGED IF YOU GET A HIT. You can also choose how much the hits are worth - say 10 cents each, or 50 cents each, etc. So if you get 100,000 IMPRESSIONS (ads on the side), but not a single hit to the site, the ads cost $0.
In my case, I set my max at 25 cents per HIT and $50 max per month. And I prepay, so I never have a bill, I just put $100 on there and wait until they tell me it is out. I rarely spend $50 per month.
If you use Adwords alot, you can upgrade to the standard version with more features. I use the basic version.
Anyway, those are some ideas I would suggest.
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Michaelangelo1
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:46 am |
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Morgan, I thought I answered your question, but I may have incorrectly understood your goal.
Your goal is to simply make fraudulent clicks on the website? Is the person hiring you their webmaster or something? Why do they want you to participate in click fraud?
I thought you were wanting to legitimately increase their web traffic... Perhaps I was incorrect.
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exweedfarmer
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:09 pm |
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Sorry Witchy-poo but nothing pops into my head that isn't more than a little bit shady. We could write you a virus...Ah, no. Could write a little something to Google your Real Estate company every time your computer caught a new unguarded Wi Fi signal and you could drive through town with a lappy in the passenger seat... not practical. I'll have to cogitate on this a bit.
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:29 pm |
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Michaelangelo1 @ Sat May 09, 2009 4:46 am wrote: Morgan, I thought I answered your question, but I may have incorrectly understood your goal.
Your goal is to simply make fraudulent clicks on the website? Is the person hiring you their webmaster or something? Why do they want you to participate in click fraud?
I thought you were wanting to legitimately increase their web traffic... Perhaps I was incorrect.
everything you said was valid and I will be copying into an email to her. As to fraudulent then I guess that is one way to look at it. I think because it is the owner of the Real Estate office who is asking me to do this, it is not fraudulent, she is in competition with another agency to be the top of the page when you google.
Michael, living in New Zealand where the vast majority use google, using other search engines is almost redundant but I can look at that for her as well. But going back to the fraud thing...who is she defrauding by attempting to be no 1 on the google results page?
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:34 pm |
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no prob Perry, it was simply a question without much hope of sucess. She is paying me $20 per day. I have 1 pc and 3 laptops at my disposal so I guess I can devote an hour of my time per day to hitting her on google.
She is a strong woman like me and cant stand the w**ker at the direct competition who is boasting how he has knocked her off her pedistal on the search engine.
I will certainly be recommending everything that has been suggested here, except google ads down the right...I dont think they do much good. As a consumer I learned very early on that you click on one of those and chances are you get spammed from then on
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Michaelangelo1
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:14 am |
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Sorry Morgan, I thought it was to get more hits to their web site, I didn't realize the number of hits made no difference, it was simply to get to the top of Google.
Either way, my suggestions should help to get to the top or near the top. They are also much less labor intensive than trying to simply search for the website multiple times.
I think the Keywords embedded in the webpage are one of the primary factors, rather than sheer number of direct link requests.
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:23 pm |
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I agree key words are paramount and I am looking into that. I dont think she understands that one search using the words ashburton property may not be the only search people use. I have used other words and she is top of the page and others where she is down a bit
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Gryf
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:01 pm |
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You could also ask all of us to help you out a bit by posting the link in your signature. I check out this site from home, work and venues all of which would have different IPs. I'd happily click a link just because.
Now doesn't mean that you'll get different IPs every time but you'll certainly have a much broader range of IPs. I know my lease gets renewed every 24 hours but my IP generally remains static. However rebooting my router before leaving for work doesn't hurt my feelings.
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stogie
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:42 pm |
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Another way to get more traffic is to purchase a few more domain names and have them point to the website. Domain names are not expensive either. Michaelangelo had some good suggestions. When people search for a realtor or property it is usually associated with a city, town, neighborhood, county etc. Use those key words in the website and in the domain names and you'll increase the search results. You don't need to be the first listing, you just need to be on the first page of results when a search is made.
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:01 pm |
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Gryf @ Sun May 10, 2009 10:01 am wrote: You could also ask all of us to help you out a bit by posting the link in your signature. I check out this site from home, work and venues all of which would have different IPs. I'd happily click a link just because.
Now doesn't mean that you'll get different IPs every time but you'll certainly have a much broader range of IPs. I know my lease gets renewed every 24 hours but my IP generally remains static. However rebooting my router before leaving for work doesn't hurt my feelings.
thank you Gryf I will do that, have just come in for a breather between lunch and dinner gigs so will attend to that tomorrow
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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:02 pm |
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stogie @ Sun May 10, 2009 3:42 pm wrote: Another way to get more traffic is to purchase a few more domain names and have them point to the website. Domain names are not expensive either. Michaelangelo had some good suggestions. When people search for a realtor or property it is usually associated with a city, town, neighborhood, county etc. Use those key words in the website and in the domain names and you'll increase the search results. You don't need to be the first listing, you just need to be on the first page of results when a search is made.
hahaha you dont know Jill, she doesnt only need to be first, she demands to be first
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sw00000p
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:07 pm |
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MorganLeFey @ Fri May 08, 2009 12:49 am wrote: dont quite understand swoop, are you criticising my choice of forum to ask? exweedfarmer @ Fri May 08, 2009 12:09 pm wrote: Sorry Witchy-poo but nothing pops into my head that isn't more than a little bit shady.
By no means am I criticising you choice of forum!
I was simply referring to what Weedy said!
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eben
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:24 pm |
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Coming in a bit late to this discussion. Here is what I know about SEM and SEO (Search Engine Marketing and Search Engine Optimization). There are about 17 to 20 criteria to getting to the top of Google page with a keyword search. No one other than Google knows all of the tricks. There are few that are well known and these are the tricks the people use to charge companies hundreds of dollars to move the web site up.
Here are a few things that I personally know works so here we go.
1. Click through: This is where what you talked about works, clicking from Google's search page to the home page, this only contribute a little to the ranking but it's fairly easy to do.
2. Metadata: By embedding key words to the web page metadata section, you allow the search spiders to collect these and use them for ranking. It's not how many metadata you have embedded, just few quality ones works the best. Make sure your page is heavy on FLASH. Spiders skip any data embedded within FLASH, only HTML works.
3. Relevancy: This is where most people don't understand how powerful this is. Relevancy is how many time your web URL appears on other sites. As the spiders gather data, it collects how many times it appears in all of the Internet and it uses that as a part of search engine placement. This is why your site tend to end up higher when you do a lot of Google ads because they appear as the spider collects data on other people's web site.
4. Keywords: This is a bit different from metadata in a sense that it's the keywords of the content, not metadata. This works well with multiple word search more than single word. So, having a multiple words in the content helps with search engine by focusing on what the searcher needs. For example. If someone was looking for a video store in San Francisco. If they type in "video store san francisco haight ashbury dvd" more of these words are in your web site, higher you will be placed than not.
These are only a few of the many items Google uses to place links on their search site. I know there are many more but if you have those four items covered, your chances go up that you will be placed high. No guarantee that you will be at the top but they definitely help.
Good luck.
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