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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:14 am 
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Well, this has turned out to be a great addition to the show. I have an overwhelmingly positive response and sometimes emotional response to this, and it has become a draw to the show.

There have been a couple singers, who upon hearing themselves for the first time actually broke down and cried tears of joy (i kid you not!).

"That's me? You made me sound so good! Thank you!" :D

One of the things I've done is feed rotation highlights back into the filler music, especially at the top of the rotation or while I'm waiting for a singer to make it through the crowd, I'll feed a funny excerpt back in and make a few funny comments about it... The crowd loves it, and I can give singers get an extra "pump" without taking up extra time. For newbies who are coming to the show for the first time, or those regulars that support me each week its pretty sweet.

Plus, I've got singers from other venues pumped into the filler as well... and not always the top performers either. It just really adds to the fun atmosphere, and karaoke spirit, and seems gets people up and singing!

I can hear people talking about it at the tables. Folks come up, "Who is that? That's not the original singer is it?" When I tell them is recorded from my show their eyes light up, "That's so cool!"

It is cool, I should've done this sooner! :D

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how are you looping the singer back in?

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rumbolt @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:24 am wrote:
how are you looping the singer back in?


Compuhost allows for it. I just "rapidscan" the singer folder, and type the singer's name and the song comes up. I can just select now, just like any other filler tune.

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karaoke koyote @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:27 pm wrote:
rumbolt @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:24 am wrote:
how are you looping the singer back in?


Compuhost allows for it. I just "rapidscan" the singer folder, and type the singer's name and the song comes up. I can just select now, just like any other filler tune.

You can also automatically send the song to the filler player when the song is done by checking send recorded song to filler player.

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Congrats! Yeah, I've been recording for quite some time thru compuhost and it really does make a difference. Our singers really appreciate it and also enjoy hearing themselves from time to time between singers.
We also post those recordings on our website and anyone can go online and listen or critique themselves. Our singers tell their friends, parents, etc. to go to our website and listen to their recordings. We actually have forums on our site to vote for the "spotlight singer" of the week. We tally the votes from each venue and the winner gets to sing 2 in a row plus a free drink.
"Live-streaming is also a great way to separate yourself from the competition. All you need is a cheap webcam and an internet connection.


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spotlightjr @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:19 pm wrote:
Congrats! Yeah, I've been recording for quite some time thru compuhost and it really does make a difference. Our singers really appreciate it and also enjoy hearing themselves from time to time between singers.
We also post those recordings on our website and anyone can go online and listen or critique themselves. Our singers tell their friends, parents, etc. to go to our website and listen to their recordings. We actually have forums on our site to vote for the "spotlight singer" of the week. We tally the votes from each venue and the winner gets to sing 2 in a row plus a free drink.
"Live-streaming is also a great way to separate yourself from the competition. All you need is a cheap webcam and an internet connection.



OMG! What a great idea!

Two things, how do I upload the songs to my website, and stream the broadcast?

I'm aware I can put the songs into filler automatically, I just prefer to do it manually.

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Hey,
The recordings save automatically on your hard drive (internal or external) and then can be uploaded on your site. You obviously will have to build a page for that particular venue and recordings. It's kind of time consuming because of all the formatting, etc. but once set up is relatively simple to upkeep. Remember it's a labor of love.

We do live-stream feeds by using free live stream sites. Ustream is pretty cool and we link that live feed right to our website. My wife designed a page on our site that ustream defaults to. If the venue doesnt offer an internet connection you could opt for an air card thru your cell phone provider. Its pretty expensive though (40.00 a month) so we only offer it at venues that have free internet connection. By having the live stream default to our website, it generates traffic and helps promote us.
Go to ustream.com and check it out.


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You seem to be on top of it all! LOL

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I did this when I was using the internal sound card. I haven't figured out how to do it since I got the Lexicon Alpha. I still have all my recordings but I'd like to figure this out and do the same thing.

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With all the other legal talk going on here on a certain other thread... how is this streaming and copying of music legal? Just a question, not intended to start a hate war!

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classickaraoke @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:27 am wrote:
With all the other legal talk going on here on a certain other thread... how is this streaming and copying of music legal? Just a question, not intended to start a hate war!

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I could be wrong but, I would think that these particular recordings would go under "Fair Use." It doesn't sound any different than you or me recording our singing here on the Singer's Forum, and everyone else being able to listen to it. He is not profiting by recording his Singers. The only thing I could see as a possible Legal issue would be that he is recording his Singers without their express written permission (on a consent form), and then rebroadcasting them for all to hear.


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cueball @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:51 am wrote:
classickaraoke @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:27 am wrote:
With all the other legal talk going on here on a certain other thread... how is this streaming and copying of music legal? Just a question, not intended to start a hate war!

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I could be wrong but, I would think that these particular recordings would go under "Fair Use." It doesn't sound any different than you or me recording our singing here on the Singer's Forum, and everyone else being able to listen to it. He is not profiting by recording his Singers. The only thing I could see as a possible Legal issue would be that he is recording his Singers without their express written permission (on a consent form), and then rebroadcasting them for all to hear.


Actually, that's not an issue for two reasons. One, the initial performance was a public exhibition, so this is simply a "rebroadcast. And two, since this is a public performance, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.

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classickaraoke @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:27 am wrote:
With all the other legal talk going on here on a certain other thread... how is this streaming and copying of music legal?Jonn


It's not .........


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jamkaraoke @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:13 am wrote:
classickaraoke @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:27 am wrote:
With all the other legal talk going on here on a certain other thread... how is this streaming and copying of music legal?Jonn


It's not .........


I can copy the music all day long. Its only if I give it to others that there may be an issue.

That said, the recordings... with bar noise and the singer's voice, it probably wouldn't become an issue unless its somehow made widely available.

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Doing the recordings for people even for free & in a noisy bar (however if mixed right & good equipment, the recording picks up minimal bar noise) is technically illegal as you are still giving a copy of the music they do not own even the original discs to.
That being said, i've done recordings for singers as well & uploaded them to a private folder that only they can access via my website so they can download their songs that were recorded. It was very popular for a few months then people started getting bored with it as they complained that they didn't want to keep recording the same song over & over & didn't really want to try anything new. Also had a couple of backfires with who most thought were VERY good singers, they heard their recordings & thought they were the worst and haven't been back to sing since.

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It's still pretty popular to record our singers. Most after hearing their recordings come in and thank us for doing it and realize where they need to clean it up at. Some are a little alarmed but never enough to keep em' away.
Overall, it's a selling feature for our business!!!


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Lonman @ Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:16 am wrote:
Doing the recordings for people even for free & in a noisy bar (however if mixed right & good equipment, the recording picks up minimal bar noise) is technically illegal as you are still giving a copy of the music they do not own even the original discs to.
That being said, i've done recordings for singers as well & uploaded them to a private folder that only they can access via my website so they can download their songs that were recorded. It was very popular for a few months then people started getting bored with it as they complained that they didn't want to keep recording the same song over & over & didn't really want to try anything new. Also had a couple of backfires with who most thought were VERY good singers, they heard their recordings & thought they were the worst and haven't been back to sing since.


Lonman, my friend, that is exactly what I'm doing... and it makes sense. I've been able to collect more email addresses this way than ever before. So from a business marketing perspective this is a win - win. People are excited about it, and give me their contact information easily.

I haven't have any backfires yet, and I try to keep the poor recording away from the singer's ear... I just say I didn't record it right, or that I did something wrong and I wasn't recorded if I'm concerned about the singer's impression of their performance. :D

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I have to agree with Lon on this one. In my limited experience witth recording singers, we did video recordings and posted our vids on youtube for our singers. ALmost immediately, I got an email from Universal (I believe) telling me that they had pulled a video of one of my singers singing "Purple Rain", and under no circumstances should i EVER do that again without the fear of punishment. So, I kinda pulled back the reins on the recording for that........

THEN, I decided to do it again, and ran into the complaints where people paid $5.00 for the act of recording a song for them, and when they heard the disks, despite the sound quality of the backtracks, were horrified to here their voices when they were sober, and they haven't been back.

If it's workin' for ya, keep up the good work, but just beware the legalities involved......(I'm not an expert at all in that area)


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karaoke koyote @ Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:36 am wrote:


I haven't have any backfires yet, and I try to keep the poor recording away from the singer's ear... I just say I didn't record it right, or that I did something wrong and I wasn't recorded if I'm concerned about the singer's impression of their performance. :D


So that's why I haven't seen any of my recordings at your show.... Now I'm insulted, and I'm never coming back.... Tongue so far in cheek, I'm choking... LMAO!!!


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