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cueball @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:10 am wrote:
BruceFan4Life @ Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:26 pm wrote:
You still haven't mentioned where your GREAT SHOWS are JamKaraoke. I Googled JamKaraoke but couldn't seem to find any shows listed under that name. Come on! Let me know where I can find the BEST Karaoke shows in New Jersey. Pretty Please!


I tried searching for JAM Entertainment (since he stated that that is his company name) through YAHOO, and you won't believe how many others have this same name... out in Santa Barbara, and in Oxnard, CA, and there's another JAM Karaoke listed in NJ that isn't this JAM. I found an advertisement for our "JAM" and the other JAM in wedj.com.

I tried doing a search for Karaoke in NJ, and I found Joe C. listed at a few places.
http://www.karaokelistings.com/venues.a ... New+Jersey

I tried searching in Craigs List but didn't find one single mention of JAM Entertainment in there.


I just noticed you've been on this site for 8 years with 528 posts --and you decided that THIS was worth your time and efforts?


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I apologize to those who were not directly involved and I hope you find this entertaining at the least! :D :D

How Many singer would accept a $20 bill to forfeit your spot in 1 rotation ???
hmmmmm....you are actually thinking about it aren't you ?


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HEY BRUUUCE --in case you forgot
Here is another show you won't go to --taken from one of your other informative posts


I'll probably never be in the Seattle area but I would scratch off any Dangerous Dan shows off of my list of things to do if I ever was in that part of the country. Those 5 minutes of my life, that he wants to steal from me, are important to me; even if they're not important to him. It's a shame that people like him have any shows at all. People like him must wait all night for the line to get long enough so that some douche bag will pay to jump to the front of the line because he thinks he's a better person than every other person in the bar. Everybody should wait their turn except for the guy with a few extra bucks in his pocket. These "whores" try to justify what they do by saying something to the effect that they wouldn't mind a bit if it happened to them and they had to wait an extra 5 minutes. If 15 or more people can patiently wait their turns; why can't everyone wait? Why does someone have to be rude to every other person in the bar just because he can? And why does any KJ have to let him get away with it? Because the KJ is a greedy S.O.B. who thinks his boss isn't paying him enough so he's gonna sell his reputation to make a few extra bucks for himself while costing the bar money at the same time. Trust me; people will notice and people will leave and they will tell the manager why they're leaving. If enough people leave because of the bribery going on; The KJ will eventually get fired. I hope so anyway.


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jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:19 am wrote:
I just noticed you've been on this site for 8 years with 528 posts --and you decided that THIS was worth your time and efforts?



And you have a problem with this because... ??????????


jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:16 am wrote:
To those "people" who are obsessed with finding out about where I host. ---I'm not going to tell you because to be honest.....you wacko's scare me. And are crazy enough to do something stupid.


I resent that entire comment, and it was totally uncalled for!!!!


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Tony! Tony! Tony! I followed the wedj.com link to find that you only seem to have an advertisement there trying to book gigs but no information on any existing gigs where someone might go to check out your "style" before they decided to hire you. Most "successful" KJ's have a web site where they list their weekly shows so people can find them and show up and spend money there. It's beginning to look like you don't have any regular shows at all. Could it be because you like to sell spots in your rotation and you've been fired from all of your gigs because of crazy whining complainers who don't appreciate getting skipped by your ego maniacal style of karaoke hosting???? Hmmmmmm!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!! LOL


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jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:26 am wrote:
I apologize to those who were not directly involved and I hope you find this entertaining at the least! :D :D

How Many singer would accept a $20 bill to forfeit your spot in 1 rotation ???
hmmmmm....you are actually thinking about it aren't you ?
oh heck yes I'd do it! LOL! Besides some people BEG me to not sing. I'd rather get paid for it! LOL!


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knightshow @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:17 am wrote:
The problem for me on that front is, what about the OTHER singers that are there paying their fair shair, too!
Lord I REALLY need to proofread when I type! LOL


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jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:16 am wrote:
To those "people" who are obsessed with finding out about where I host. ---I'm not going to tell you because to be honest.....you wacko's scare me. And are crazy enough to do something stupid.

The fact is I do host a weekly show - and as stated in many posts over the many years on this sight. I host to the crowd, if there are 40 singers or 2 singers the show is molded to keep the majority as happy as I can. I KNOW THIS IS NOT LIKE MANY OF THE 100% KARAOKE SHOWS. I will on OCCASION switch a spot if too many ballads are sung. Which means if you're a singer you may be pushed back 1 spot MAYBE. I'll also play dance music if the rotation is not that large and there are plenty of dancers. I know this DRIVES some singers crazy. But my jobs not to keep the singers happy ..its to keep the CROWD happy. and in doing so I may lose some singers like BFFL ( I mean how many Bruce songs can you sit and listen to week after week) .. And Cueball who woke you up ..did you smell a situation that need you to GOOGLE ME ?...holy crap GET A LIFE !!!!
People like Cuey LOVE to tour the country on karaoke tours. I've met him when he came out to my city for a birthday surprise, and we had a ball going to competitor shows. He had a pretty good time. I personally won't switch spots in the rotations because that's what the kj's personality and mix music is for. Also, I might approach one of the singers and say something like "we're having too many ballads... I know you sing some upbeat songs... care to do one of those before your next selection???"

And Jam, just because someone googles someone doesn't mean they don't have a LIFE? Talk about excessive drame! :P :roll:


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cueball @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:27 am wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:19 am wrote:
I just noticed you've been on this site for 8 years with 528 posts --and you decided that THIS was worth your time and efforts?



And you have a problem with this because... ??????????


jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:16 am wrote:
To those "people" who are obsessed with finding out about where I host. ---I'm not going to tell you because to be honest.....you wacko's scare me. And are crazy enough to do something stupid.


I resent that entire comment, and it was totally uncalled for!!!!


CUEBALL - I stand by my comments..It seems your only motive was to confirm if I had a show or not for BFFL. Why I don't know you would spend anytime searching for ME? Did I offend you previoulsy ? When I read that someone spends time HUNTING for me ..it worries me


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knightshow @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:00 am wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:16 am wrote:
To those "people" who are obsessed with finding out about where I host. ---I'm not going to tell you because to be honest.....you wacko's scare me. And are crazy enough to do something stupid.

The fact is I do host a weekly show - and as stated in many posts over the many years on this sight. I host to the crowd, if there are 40 singers or 2 singers the show is molded to keep the majority as happy as I can. I KNOW THIS IS NOT LIKE MANY OF THE 100% KARAOKE SHOWS. I will on OCCASION switch a spot if too many ballads are sung. Which means if you're a singer you may be pushed back 1 spot MAYBE. I'll also play dance music if the rotation is not that large and there are plenty of dancers. I know this DRIVES some singers crazy. But my jobs not to keep the singers happy ..its to keep the CROWD happy. and in doing so I may lose some singers like BFFL ( I mean how many Bruce songs can you sit and listen to week after week) .. And Cueball who woke you up ..did you smell a situation that need you to GOOGLE ME ?...holy crap GET A LIFE !!!!
People like Cuey LOVE to tour the country on karaoke tours. I've met him when he came out to my city for a birthday surprise, and we had a ball going to competitor shows. He had a pretty good time. I personally won't switch spots in the rotations because that's what the kj's personality and mix music is for. Also, I might approach one of the singers and say something like "we're having too many ballads... I know you sing some upbeat songs... care to do one of those before your next selection???"

And Jam, just because someone googles someone doesn't mean they don't have a LIFE? Talk about excessive drame! :P :roll:


Matt for some reason you want to stay relevant in this conversation -- I know you and cueball have a history on other sites ..I just don't know why you or him want to continue to jump on the bash jam bandwagon with that other moron ?


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BruceFan4Life @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:45 am wrote:
Tony! Tony! Tony! I followed the wedj.com link to find that you only seem to have an advertisement there trying to book gigs but no information on any existing gigs where someone might go to check out your "style" before they decided to hire you. Most "successful" KJ's have a web site where they list their weekly shows so people can find them and show up and spend money there. It's beginning to look like you don't have any regular shows at all. Could it be because you like to sell spots in your rotation and you've been fired from all of your gigs because of crazy whining complainers who don't appreciate getting skipped by your ego maniacal style of karaoke hosting???? Hmmmmmm!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!! LOL


Bruce you caught me !!! I don't have any current shows and never did !
Your obession is starting to THROW UP some red flags. Bruce you are correct in all your thinkings and have been right all along. I totally agree that any Karaoke Host that skips a singer for any reason ( including dying and or $20 bribe) is a very very bad host. I only WISH I had a show so I could invite you down so you can enjoy
it ! Bruce - Cue - Matt --you guys are the best !!! PEACE AND LOVE and Keep singing !!!


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http://www.maurajasper.com/Cueball.html

It's amazing when you search what you can find.

Actually Nice job !! --no joking


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jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:16 am wrote:
Matt for some reason you want to stay relevant in this conversation -- I know you and cueball have a history on other sites ..I just don't know why you or him want to continue to jump on the bash jam bandwagon with that other moron ?
Hardly a Bash Jam Bandwagon... there've been a couple of pages of only BFFL standing up for the NO reason on accepting Bribes (or so it seems). I corrected statements about Bruce not being a KJ (although having the correct temperment I have no doubt), and then when you focused on Cueball.

As for my comments that are the opposite of yours on skipping singers or adjusting the rotation slightly, you're hardly the first person to ever do so, and I daresay, won't be the last. My comments were merely to show the other side of the coin.

There's no one correct way of running a show, although there are ways that appeal to some VS others. I personally like running a 100% karaoke show, and I have my own ideas about rotation. Lonnie's are a bit different, and we agree to disagree slightly. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy myself at his shows. I think he's literally the best Karaoke Host I've ever seen (not online, live, in action), and his years of service reflect that polish. That also doesn't mean I am making it my mission in life to destroy his shows! LOL

You no doubt run your own shows the way you see fit. This forum was especially created where like minded individuals can have discussions such as this. There IS no right or wrong way. We had a thread on here a few months ago that made my blood BOIL... but that person had the right to have her shows the way SHE wanted... such is life!


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jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:45 am wrote:
http://www.maurajasper.com/Cueball.html

It's amazing when you search what you can find.

Actually Nice job !! --no joking


hmmm...Any links to a Bruce performance?


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Children, children, please...let's not be mean to one another.

All you men are grown-ups. I am reading this thread, and it is embarrassing. Punches, name calling, insults...

It simply comes down to everyone having different opinions. It's ok you guys. Respect one another's differences. That really is what makes this an awesome forum. Because people are so different, you get great ideas from different people. If we were all the same, it would be pointless really. I use the advice and ideas I get from the forum to make my shows better.

While I do not accept bribes from people, I am not so harsh that I don't EVER understand a person's special situation. I have been skipped in a rotation before. Yes, it made me very angry. I was so obvious that I got skipped several times, I finally did leave. And if I walked in a bar and he was working, I would leave, but I am in no way a hard-Azz. The person singing in front of me said, "Hey, Bridgette (that's me) get ready, you're next" when he started to sing. My name was scrolling across the bottom of his screen. While he was singing, some little blond, young girl was rubbing all up on the KJ. When the guy's song finished, the KJ called the blond girl, but the computer started playing MY SONG!! And I'm not rubbing up on any of you KJ hotties to sing next. (Sorry Koyote...I don't need 6 minutes... :wink: Please don't take that offensively...I am j/k, just in case, with all the tension here) Anyway, if he would have called me in the next couple of songs, I would have been fine, although I feel that was in bad taste on the KJ's part. But he never called me again the whole rotation. It was unfair, to say the least.

I am a KJ. I run one show on the beach, and this show can be very different from regular karaoke shows. We have to juggle all kinds of things at this show that I don't have to juggle in my other venue, which is a small town, regular karaoke show. We have to keep the tourists happy so they come back, but we also have to cater a little to our regulars that keep us afloat in the winter. So things are different. I do have to insert DJ songs at times, even though I'm not fond of it. Tourists love to sing, but they LOVE to dance...or whatever they call it. I have been known occasionally to let one of my regulars sing out of turn, because the bar is packed like sardines and they can't take it anymore. They are leaving. If they have a song in the rotation that they haven't sung yet, I go ahead and let them. The tourist don't notice anyway, and the other regulars know what is going on. It is not a big deal at that show.

So Bruce, for once, I understand what you are saying. While you are a little harsh about it, I understand your frustration. It is not easy doing my job. It looks easy to most singers sitting on the other side of my table. And I have a rich customer who likes to buy everything she wants and she can afford it. She offered me $200 the other night to not play anymore slow, country songs. Before you attack me, I didn't take it. I told her I couldn't control what people sing, and it is karaoke. I don't like people who buy their way anymore than you. I think it gives unfair advantages to rich people, which is one thing wrong with this whole country, so I don't want to promote that idea at my show. Anyway, I understand you.

Koyote and Jam, I understand your positions too. I don't think it makes you an awful KJs to symapathize with someone's position. I think you may be a little more on the compassionate side than others. Like you, I have learned which of my singers will always have a special circumstance, and I don't cater to them anymore. If you ever once tell me you need to go ahead and sing because you are leaving, and I put you up, but you don't leave, I will never do it for you again.

I think an amazing KJ is one that can work a little on all ends of the spectrum. You're a firm, karaoke Nazi when you need to be, but you are also understanding to customers and know how to manipulate things to work the crowd and best benefit the atmosphere when you need to.

When people walk in a bar, they want to be entertained. It doesn't matter if it's karaoke and they don't sing. If the show is upbeat enough, they will stay. I have many regulars that never sing. My show is fun. (And believe me, it's not because I let 15 songs in a row be slow, sappy. I work it... :) )

I am never what I consider unfair, but I am flexible when it is necessary to my business. And guess what? Everyone, singers or not, love my show. I've got more shows offers than I can accomodate.

I just think we all need to try to understand different opinions. Being harsh and mean to one another and taking sides is really not necessary. There is a happy medium...Find it!!! :) Don't be so childish about it.

And any of you are welcome at any of my shows anytime...I would LOVE IT if some of my forum buddies walked in. I might even have to give you guys special privileges because of who you are...hehehe. And look...I'm still an :angel:


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Well, it's obvious that you can't even spell obsession. I wonder if you can spell paranoia? Why are you so worried about someone showing up at a public place to check out your karaoke show? Do you think that I would go to the trouble to kick your (@$%&#!) because you called me a few names? LOL Karaoke is a hobby of mine. I have plenty of free time to learn new songs and surf the web for all things karaoke. I enjoy reading about other people's karaoke experiences. I also enjoy giving my opinions about karaoke on a karaoke FORUM.

FORUM:
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a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
3. A court of law; a tribunal.

You are on this Forum as much as anyone else, Tony, so why do you attack others for enjoying the site with an insult like "GET A LIFE". We all have lives and this Forum is just a part of those lives. Spending time checking this forum is no different than spending an hour watching your favorite TV show. People have various interests and for the people here, karaoke is a part of their lives; not their entire life. I enjoy reading this Forum and I do indeed have strong opinions on certain parts of the karaoke experience. Most businesses enjoy getting suggestions from their customers that might just improve their business. I suggested to a KJ recently that he should buy an A/B switch for his system so he wouldn't have to be swapping cables when he went from his PC to one of his CDG players when he had to play a customer's CD. I went to his show the following week and , lo and behold, he had himself an A/B switch and he loved how it made his system easier to use. Amazing how someone who is not a KJ could help someone who is, huh? Sometimes the customer is the one who comes up with the idea to make a show better because the customer sees the flaws where the KJ is too defensive to admit that he might be doing something wrong. Well, the sun is finally out so I'm gonna take the old laptop out in the yard and continue my web surfing while in the pool. See you soon, Tony. I'll be the guy singing Rosalita. :D


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karaokeking211 @ August 6th 2009, 12:14 pm wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:45 am wrote:
http://www.maurajasper.com/Cueball.html

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Actually Nice job !! --no joking


hmmm...Any links to a Bruce performance?


There are plenty of my performances on the Singers Showcase if you want to listen. My talent level has nothing to do with my opinions on whether or not KJ's should take bribes. Your position in the rotation should have nothing to do with your talent level or your income level.


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