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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Interested in buying this system. Is it worth it or should I go in a different direction? Any feedback would be welcome.

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kfxbryan @ Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:37 pm wrote:
Interested in buying this system. Is it worth it or should I go in a different direction? Any feedback would be welcome.

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I use the UHF-5800 4 mic set up and suprisingly am extremely pleased with it. In a bar scene with drunks handling your mics its a great mic set up for the price. They sound good too. I do have to say they don't have the best low end. I have not had once issue with reception and I host in a very large room.

As for the player, I couldn't give advice.

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I wouldn't buy anything with the Voco Pro name on it. Buy cheap, you get cheap.


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Normally I would agree with that statement Bruce. Not a fan of VocoPro myself but on occasion a cheap product can perform well as I have found with the Mics in question. I was skeptical when a fellow KJ recommended this set up but went a head and decided to try them out and so far so good. I have been running them for about 3 months now and have gotten a lot of posative feedback. Most even like them over the Shures I was running previously.

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karaokeking211 @ August 10th 2009, 4:30 am wrote:
Normally I would agree with that statement Bruce. Not a fan of VocoPro myself but on occasion a cheap product can perform well as I have found with the Mics in question. I was skeptical when a fellow KJ recommended this set up but went a head and decided to try them out and so far so good. I have been running them for about 3 months now and have gotten a lot of posative feedback. Most even like them over the Shures I was running previously.


No problem. People tend to like whatever it is they own. They hate to think that they made a mistake. I've been to shows that used those Voco Pro mics and I didn't like the way they sounded. To each his own.


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BruceFan4Life @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:56 am wrote:
karaokeking211 @ August 10th 2009, 4:30 am wrote:
Normally I would agree with that statement Bruce. Not a fan of VocoPro myself but on occasion a cheap product can perform well as I have found with the Mics in question. I was skeptical when a fellow KJ recommended this set up but went a head and decided to try them out and so far so good. I have been running them for about 3 months now and have gotten a lot of posative feedback. Most even like them over the Shures I was running previously.


No problem. People tend to like whatever it is they own. They hate to think that they made a mistake. I've been to shows that used those Voco Pro mics and I didn't like the way they sounded. To each his own.


Out of curiosity what, about how they sounded, did you not like? I have owned most mic brands and their different models. What mic do you prefer? I would not consider the purchase of these mics a mistake in any way.

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karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 am wrote:
Out of curiosity what, about how they sounded, did you not like?

1) inconsistent off-axis response, 2) distortion in their compander, and 3) poor transmission of 80-125Hz band.

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I have owned most mic brands and their different models. What mic do you prefer?

Shure PGX for one. The one you thought these are better than, apparently. I simply don't get that.

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I would not consider the purchase of these mics a mistake in any way.

They aren't as bad as some of the cheap wireless mics.

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I didn't say they were better than the Shures. SOME singers like them better tho. I prefer Shure myself. For my show the Vocopro's work because singers are not on a stage and take the mics wherever they want. Mix that with lots of alcohol and the groups that want four mics to all sing "Sweet Caroline". Makes me nervous them handling four $400.00 mics. Repair or replacement costs are much less.

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correction---- I did say most prefer them I meant some. Sry! :(

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I found them to sound very tinny and there was quite a bit of feedback at the show where they were being used. I asked the KJ if I could use a wired mic instead, which she was happy to llet me do. She told me the Voco Pro's usually sound better but she had forgotten to bring any mic covers. LOL I didn't realize that a piece of slimy foam rubber would make a mic sound better. I need to get me some of those. NOT!!! I understand the need to use cheaper mics when drunk people are involved and most people in a bar on karaoke won't care one way or the other. If the Voco Pro's work for you and you and your crowd think they sound great; I'm happy for you. I just stand there and stare at the TV when I sing so I'm perfectly happy with a corded SM 58 or something similar.


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Ah... the slimy foam cover or as I like to call them "flu traps". :vomit: Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up. I actually use the corded SM 58 on a goose neck for my self at my booth and let the drunks trash the Voco Pros. A select few are allowed to use my SM 58.

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karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:

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karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:


I think some people think that they will cut out all of the POPPING P's when someone is singing. To me, the only thing they seem to do is muffle the sound so you have to turn up the gain to compensate..... I tend to get very close to the mic when I sing so those slimy things really gross me out.


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Lonman @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am wrote:
karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:


Windscreens keep the S's from hissing and the P's from popping. Since most karaoke singers don't have a clue about proper microphone techniques, it can help.

The best reason to use them at karaoke is in case the microphone gets dropped. The foam can help to cushion the fall and save it from severe damage. The foam also helps keep the microphone from rolling off the tables.


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I've seen wireless vocos at two separate shows. I'd rather listen to radio shack. Maybe it's better for the drunks since they could mishandle them, but then what about the people listening? They have a tinny sound to them not to mention not clear. Also, sm58 take a lot of punishment so maybe they are better for the drunks. All I use currently are sm56's.

I am looking for another quality wireless system. I have two and a wired but want another wireless.

Willing to try anything as long as it is mentioned in the same breath as yorkville and carvin since that is what my sound comes out of. And I want the best price of course, willing to go used.

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BruceFan4Life @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:30 pm wrote:
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karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:


I think some people think that they will cut out all of the POPPING P's when someone is singing. To me, the only thing they seem to do is muffle the sound so you have to turn up the gain to compensate..... I tend to get very close to the mic when I sing so those slimy things really gross me out.


They do kill the sound and make it sound like you are singing through a pillow. I have a guy that carries his own flu catcher and who knows how long he has been carrying that thing in his pocket. Those things only make me more paranoid about the creepy crawlies on a mic when I see them.

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Lonman @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am wrote:
karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:


Windscreens keep the S's from hissing and the P's from popping. Since most karaoke singers don't have a clue about proper microphone techniques, it can help.

A decent mic will have a wind screen built in that is more than sufficient.

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The best reason to use them at karaoke is in case the microphone gets dropped. The foam can help to cushion the fall and save it from severe damage. The foam also helps keep the microphone from rolling off the tables.

Again a good mic will handle the occasional drops. I have the same Shure 58's i've been using for 15+ years that have been dropped, swung, flung & even dropped in a beer - the only thing that needs to be replaced is the metal screen for $5.
The foam external wind screens are for outdoor use to aid with wind noise. Used on a regular basis, they just soak up everyones spit - feel one at the end of a night of busy use. :puke:

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angel910 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:30 pm wrote:
Lonman @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:57 am wrote:
karaokeking211 @ Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:02 am wrote:
Only thing I found those things good for was at an outdoor gig when the wind kicks up.


That's is directly their intent & why they are called wind screens. I never got where people believed these made mics sound better or made them think it will help aid in sickness prevention? :roll:


Windscreens keep the S's from hissing and the P's from popping. Since most karaoke singers don't have a clue about proper microphone techniques, it can help.

The best reason to use them at karaoke is in case the microphone gets dropped. The foam can help to cushion the fall and save it from severe damage. The foam also helps keep the microphone from rolling off the tables.


I use the Shure A1K Anti roll device. These also help keeping the wannabe rockstar from cupping the mic .

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/pro ... e/a1k.html

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OK, so I guess the Vocopro is not the most popular around here. It just seems to be the first whenever you pull up anything Karaoke. Any suggestions for a system for the party house. Which player, mic, speakers, etc will be needed to stay around the 1 grand mark. I tried to find the JVC RSQ-333 and pioneer DVD-V630 but it looks like they are in limited supply or discontinued. HELP.


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If you have a laptop, you could use that as your player. Use a basic free player like WinAmp with a karaoke plugin. Then you can use the rest of the money for discs (need to take the time to rip to your computer) & on a pretty nice little home PA system that will sound much better than any of the all in one units out there.

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