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Hank Singer
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:57 pm |
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I am looking at 2 new JRX S subwoofers, and 2 JRX 100 series tops (also new) which I can get for 800.00 for everything including the cables. That seems to be about half price from what I can tell, but thinking it's a good deal. Since I read that these are entry level speakers, can anyone tell me the real deal on these as far as sound quality etc., are they decent?
Thanks, HS
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:22 pm |
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They are okay and that is a fair price. What are your current speakers? JRX may be an upgrade, or maybe not. Those subs are not that great, I would rather use CW118V than JRX118S personally. The JRX sub is 4Ω which means you won't be bridging an amp into two of them, though you can put your subs on one side of an amp that does 2Ω stereo, and your tops on the other side.
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Hank Singer
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:59 pm |
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Thanks for the reply Jeff...
For me to answer your question, I have to get a little winded here.
My current setup is a 5016 Yamaha mixer with C115 speakers.
I just bought a new "road ready" case today with the following componets:
2- Crown XTi 4000 amps
Pa driverack
Furman PF-pro R power conditioner
All the componets are new and have never been plugged in. The speakers and subs are offered to me from the same guy I just bought the rack from earlier today. Since I have a usable system already, I can wait to get some better qualty speakers later for the rack I just purchased. If they were good quality at a bargain price, then I would probably jump on them. Plus I assumed that the speakers and subs would be the right matching componets for the crown amps.
Just one final thought here, can I run my Yamaha C115Vs with one of the Crown amps if I wanted a little more punch, and then get a better sub to run off of the 2nd Crown 4000 later? Thanks, HS
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:20 pm |
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Hank Singer @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:59 pm wrote: Thanks for the reply Jeff... For me to answer your question, I have to get a little winded here. My current setup is a 5016 Yamaha mixer with C115 speakers.
I just bought a new "road ready" case today with the following componets:
2- Crown XTi 4000 amps Pa driverack Furman PF-pro R power conditioner All the componets are new and have never been plugged in. The speakers and subs are offered to me from the same guy I just bought the rack from earlier today. Since I have a usable system already, I can wait to get some better qualty speakers later for the rack I just purchased. If they were good quality at a bargain price, then I would probably jump on them. Plus I assumed that the speakers and subs would be the right matching componets for the crown amps.
Just one final thought here, can I run my Yamaha C115Vs with one of the Crown amps if I wanted a little more punch, and then get a better sub to run off of the 2nd Crown 4000 later? Thanks, HS
The JRX cabinets would be a downgrade from the C115 which are a decent speaker with the proper power which the Crown amps you opted for are more than proper power.
Adding a sub (or two) later can be run on the 2nd amp with no problems. Make sure the subs are 8 ohms when you do settle on some. That way you can bridge your amp for maximum power to the subs. I would be looking at subs that can handle approx 1200 watts @ 8 ohms. The amp actually pushes 2400 watts at 8 ohms. But if you added 2, it would drop the load to 4 ohms which the amp pushes 3200 watts. Again more than enough for the subs & will be a kickass sound with the Driverack dialed in.
Take a look at the Peavey SP118, these are some pretty kickin subs at a decent price. Much better than the JRX subs.
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Hank Singer
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:36 pm |
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Thanks for the reply Lonman,
If my C115Vs would sound better than the JBLs, thats good news because I can use either the 5016 mixer to power them, or the Crown 4000, right? Just wondering...the Crown isn't too much power for the Yamaha's is it?
BTW, I paid 1,000 for everything in, and including the rack.
Thnks,again
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:38 pm |
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Lonman @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:20 pm wrote: The JRX cabinets would be a downgrade from the C115
If he means the JRX115, I agree. The JRX125 would be significantly more efficient than a C115V but also bulkier and not the kind of speaker you can sensibly put on poles. At any rate, it sounds like the OP needs subs more than new tops, which Lonman discusses in his post as well.
XTi 4000s are way more than he needs for any of the speakers discussed on this thread, and he no doubt invested good money in them. I would suggest a SRX718S or a pair of them. If you're going to have $700 amps you might as well not put them on $300 speakers. IMO the XTi amps suck on subs, but he already has them...:/
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:38 pm |
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Hank Singer @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:36 pm wrote: Thanks for the reply Lonman,
If my C115Vs would sound better than the JBLs, thats good news because I can use either the 5016 mixer to power them, or the Crown 4000, right? Just wondering...the Crown isn't too much power for the Yamaha's is it?
BTW, I paid 1,000 for everything in, and including the rack. Thnks,again
The amps are slightly more than the Yamahas actually require but as long as you aren't cranking them into the red, you will have some killer headroom & nice clean sound.
$1000, now i'm seriously jealous!
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:45 pm |
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jeffsw6 @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:38 pm wrote: Lonman @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:20 pm wrote: The JRX cabinets would be a downgrade from the C115 If he means the JRX115, I agree. The JRX125 would be significantly more efficient than a C115V but also bulkier and not the kind of speaker you can sensibly put on poles. At any rate, it sounds like the OP needs subs more than new tops, which Lonman discusses in his post as well. XTi 4000s are way more than he needs for any of the speakers discussed on this thread, and he no doubt invested good money in them. I would suggest a SRX718S or a pair of them. If you're going to have $700 amps you might as well not put them on $300 speakers. IMO the XTi amps suck on subs, but he already has them...:/
The SRx series are killer, or maybe the McCauley subs as well. But they are all pretty spendy. The SP118 is a decent sub for the price & will go well with the power those amps push.
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:06 pm |
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I suppose he can buy almost twice as many SP118s as SRX718S for the same money, which means more driver area, which means more efficient use of power, too. The Peavey subs won't go as low as SRX which can mean you work them really hard, or just run out of gas, with modern hip-hop/rap/etc; but for karaoke he will probably have the nicest mobile rig in his town.
Great deal for $1000!
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Hank Singer
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:40 pm |
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jeffsw6 @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:06 pm wrote: I suppose he can buy almost twice as many SP118s as SRX718S for the same money, which means more driver area, which means more efficient use of power, too. The Peavey subs won't go as low as SRX which can mean you work them really hard, or just run out of gas, with modern hip-hop/rap/etc; but for karaoke he will probably have the nicest mobile rig in his town.
Great deal for $1000!
Thanks Lonman and Jeff for the replys.
I checked the SRXs and they even look awesome (around 929.00 each)...I will give the subs some thought as far as my budget goes.
Just wondering if I might be able to sell the JRX118s, and the JRX100s to help me get something else. Anyone looking for something like this? All 4 speakers are brand new (never plugged in) and come with covers.
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Lonman
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:57 pm |
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Hank Singer @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:40 pm wrote: jeffsw6 @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:06 pm wrote: I suppose he can buy almost twice as many SP118s as SRX718S for the same money, which means more driver area, which means more efficient use of power, too. The Peavey subs won't go as low as SRX which can mean you work them really hard, or just run out of gas, with modern hip-hop/rap/etc; but for karaoke he will probably have the nicest mobile rig in his town.
Great deal for $1000! Thanks Lonman and Jeff for the replys. I checked the SRXs and they even look awesome (around 929.00 each)...I will give the subs some thought as far as my budget goes. Just wondering if I might be able to sell the JRX118s, and the JRX100s to help me get something else. Anyone looking for something like this? All 4 speakers are brand new (never plugged in) and come with covers.
You can definitely sell the set & probably get enough to get one of the SRx subs or 2 of the Peavey subs.
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:34 pm |
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Hank Singer @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:40 pm wrote: I checked the SRXs and they even look awesome (around 929.00 each)...I will give the subs some thought as far as my budget goes.
You can get them a little cheaper than MAP, of course. A local music store that does very little volume with JBL said they'd sell me SRX718S at $899ea, and I knew they could go lower if the sales guy cared about getting my business. I just paid ~$2550 for a pair of SRX728S which MAP around $1500ea, so figure you can probably get close to $800 for the 718 without your dealer not making any money on them.
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Hank Singer
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:59 pm |
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Just curious Jeff why you don't like the XLSi amp for subwoofers? And you don't use the double SRX728s for karaoke...do you?
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:36 pm |
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Hank Singer @ Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:59 pm wrote: Just curious Jeff why you don't like the XLSi amp for subwoofers? And you don't use the double SRX728s for karaoke...do you?
My XTi amps clip pretty early when driving subs. A lot of people say the same thing about QSC PLX amps, which have a similar power supply design. I think switch-mode amps with relatively small capacitor banks are a poor choice for subwoofers. I use Behringer EP2500s instead of XTis on subs now and am much happier. My XTi amps are not doorstops, though; they power my stage monitors, and the DSP features are very useful in that role. I don't mind them on tops, either; but I do not need DSP on my top boxes.
I bought the 728s because my A-rig is getting more use with live bands, and because I got them almost as cheap as 718s. I couldn't pass that deal up.
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