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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:20 am 
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Karen K @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:09 am wrote:
LL: I LOVE Dar Williams. Annie DeFranco is a fave of mine, as is Loreena McKennitt (hard to find songs by her but I haven't checked Selectatrack yet). People love to hear The Mummer's Dance, especially because the chorus is pretty high - always surprises people. A real foot tapper. Adele is bringing more stuff out, and I'm on the trail to get a lot of Diana Krall now - glad she is so great about licensing. Just makes sense.


I'm with you on Dar Williams and would love to see a CD+G version of "Mercy Of The Fallen," though I've met very few people in the karaoke world who have even heard of her LOL

October Project is another group that I like that I know no CD+G company would ever waste their $$$ on because the demand would be non-existent.

Virtually any older artist's recent albums are invisible in the karaoke world simply because they get little airplay and publicity and rarely chart. I wonder why certain songs, like the 3rd or 4th followup single to a particular band's one hit ten years ago, make it onto CD+G compilations (I mean really, who has ever sung Rush's "Nobody's Hero" or Semisonic's "Singing In My Sleep" at a karaoke bar.....umm, besides me, that is LOL) but then I discover that those songs hit the Billboard charts, even if only briefly, and then disappear never to be remembered again except by that band's diehard fanatics.

On the other hand, who remembers a Top 20 song from 1986 by Kansas called "All I Wanted?" It was their big comeback hit, but no karaoke version of that song was ever made (I know...believe me, I've looked.....I had to make my own Power Karaoke version that I play at home privately). Kansas hasn't played the song themselves in at least fifteen years, and it's rarely played on the radio anymore (very occasionally on out-of-the-way lite rock stations), but 23 years ago it was a big chart hit. But no karaoke version.

So who knows what the criteria really are? <shrugging shoulders>


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Murrlyn @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:28 am wrote:
...jr, I purchased my "Pretty Amazing Grace" backing from www.Ameritz.co.uk

They also have "Another Day (That Time Forgot)", "Delirious Love" and "Home Before Dark"

Jeff Daniels has quite a few ND tracks that you probably won't get anywhere on karaoke. I have had Jeff create a few tracks on a custom order and I'm currently considering getting him to do "Hell Yeah" and "Man Of God", although I have a few others on the list ahead of those two. The "Brother Love's TSS" on Jeff's site is based on the live performance on "Love At The Greek".

Jeff's site is www.backingtracks.co.uk

www.Midiking.com also have a few backing tracks that I have purchased but I don't think they have any from the last two albums. They are also midi tracks and do not have backing vocals.

PS.. Saw you rant repeated on IASND! ;)


Thank you so much for the references. As with the other referrals I've been fortunate to receive here and through IMs, it appears I'll be able to acquire at least some of what I’m looking for.

Thank you one and all.

Any other sources will be gratefully received as well.

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TopherM @ Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:16 pm wrote:
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Doesn't he still sellout his concerts? I thought so, which would lead you to think there is demand for him still. I really don't know his recent stuff but my 2 favorites to do are Love on the Rocks and Heartlight.


He obviously sells out his concerts based mostly on his 60s and 70s material, not his latest album. And, of course, there is a karaoke market for songs like "Sweet Caroline." But that song was written in 1969. If he was only singing his latest album, don't know if that many peeps would show:

1. Oh Mary
2. Hell Yeah
3. Captain of a Shipwreck
4. Evermore
5. Save Me a Saturday Night
6. Delirious Love
7. I'm on to You
8. What's It Gonna Be
9. Man of God
10. Create Me
11. Face Me
12. We

I'm sure it's good, artistic stuff, but it's not his radio-friendly 60s and 70s stuff. In fact, his latest origial album has sold 540,000 copies, while his greatest hits album from 1992 sold 15,000,000 copies.

Like I tell everyone at my karaoke show when they ask for a weird deep-cut - "If it isn't a top 40 song on the radio, they probably don't make it in karaoke."


Those songs are actually from Neil's previous album "12 Songs". His latest album "Home Before Dark" is Neil's first ever album to go to #1 on the billboard charts.


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If you go to SBI Karaoke you can download his entire last album in karaoke format.


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jr2423 @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:31 pm wrote:
Avg Joe @ Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:23 pm wrote:
...jr, what's your favorite song of his you like to do?


It's really a toss-up. I guess I would pick "Holly Holy". But It's actually tied with "I Am, I Said" and "Brother Love's Travelin' Salvation Show". The latter of which always seems to get the crowd goin'.



Holly Holy is my favorite as well! I don't want to scare you, and you're not going to believe it: Backstage (Ovation), normally known to produce some pretty awful stuff, actually has the best version of this that I've ever heard! No kidding! Better than Sound Choice or Chartbuster!


Hey, anyone can get lucky once, I guess. Give it a try!

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JoeChartreuse @ Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:41 am wrote:
...Holly Holy is my favorite as well! I don't want to scare you, and you're not going to believe it: Backstage (Ovation), normally known to produce some pretty awful stuff, actually has the best version of this that I've ever heard! No kidding! Better than Sound Choice or Chartbuster!


Hey, anyone can get lucky once, I guess. Give it a try!


Thanks for the head's-up. Yes, I do have that version, and it is good. I tend to buy most anything "Neil" just to see if I can find a better version. But I have always maintained that the DK Karaoke disc #1102 has to be the best (for me anyway). I know many don't care for the background melody, but I sing over it so it's not noticed. As a result, my Neil Diamond collection (with many dupes) is pretty close in size to my Elvis collection (not so many dupes).

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It is not always demand for the songs that determines if a karaoke version gets made. It also depends on how demanding the song's owners are about their royalties rights.

For these songs it may be that Neil's management either asked too much or decided it was not worth the paperwork to allow a karaoke version to be made.

SBI is based in the UK and the laws there are a lot more permissive for karaoke to be made, and no prior approval is required to make karaoke, and royalties are a set rate.


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