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jeffsw6
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EONs totally blow. If you ask me, they are for DJs doing house parties.
I do not know what the weight & SPL targets are, but the QSC K10 is comparable to the SRM450 in performance and is a little lighter, and a good sounding speaker.
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I know the Yorks are LESS than two pounds heavier than the Mackies but the difference in quality (sound and durability) and power (550 v 450) is worth it.
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timberlea @ Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:29 pm wrote: I know the Yorks are LESS than two pounds heavier than the Mackies but the difference in quality (sound and durability) and power (550 v 450) is worth it.
According to the link you provided the Yorkvilles weigh 47lbs, the Mackies (according to their spec sheet) weigh 40 lbs. So again, sound quality being what it is if the people that need to set this up can't lift the Mackies onto stands, how are they going to lift the 7 pound heavier Yorkvilles? Again, if we want to throw the OP's price, weight and power requirements out the window, I can offer up a lot better solutions than anything with a composite cabinet.
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:43 pm |
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This is why I suggest the K10 at 30 pounds. If you are limited in your ability to lift speakers into position, you have to do the best you can with light-weight stuff.
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Quote: But I still use my NADY DKW DUO wireless mics !!!!!!! And for a cheap set up will suggest them  While I don't own them, I have sang on them before. They worked fine for me.
Actually I read that Nady was the company that pioneered wireless mic technonogy, I found that kind of interesting.
Sorry, off topic, please comtinue.
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Thanks for the time you have spent giving me input guys.
Yorkvilles are difficult to see or hear in this country.
The small Yamaha desk with it's compressors I am excited about.
I was wondering haw to include compression without further complication.
The K10's... 10 inch speakers... Without having heard them I dont know.
I know Peavey had I think 5 or 6 inch cluster speakers.
Peavey & Subs... The ladies had Peavey years ago & loved the sound of the spring reverb.
I did consider a small peavey top to feed a monitor with an aux out going to active mains.
Subs though are out of the equation.
I use the EV SB122 with my SRM450's. Love that combination.
It would be too much for them.
Eons... I go with the advice you have given me.
I have seen a very odd bose system that looks like a small piller.
It actually sounds alright at low volume but I find it difficult to take seriously.
Have to dash now. I will read again tomorrow.
Thank you again for your effort on this.
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Go out and listen to the K10's, they are impressive. In fact I'm thinking I will go with either the K10 or K12 with a MG8cx for a mobile rig. Lightweight with excellent sound and easy to move around.
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jeffsw6
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The K12 is a 75 degrees box, while the K10 is 90 degrees. I figured the OP in this thread would be happier with 90 degree coverage, and the reduction in bass response on the K10 vs the K12 is probably not a big deal compared to coverage area and weight. Note the SRM450 is also a 90 degree box.
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In regards to the speaker weight, I've used Peavey 115 (I think) speakers for 18 years now. I'm guessing them to weigh 40+ lbs. I can move them alone, but can't get them on a stand by myself, but easy with one other person. When I posted last, someone suggested the Ultimate TS15 (or something like that), kind of a powered stand to raise the speakers. I think I could do that by myself. But being female, I have never had a problem with finding someone to help me put my speakers on the stand. And help me carry in the rack. I'm sure these girls could do the same  Also, buy the roadie a drink if he isn't an employ. Works for me. Also a good wheeled cart to get them from the vehicle helps. But I really wouldn't want a heavier speaker. I'm still thinking about the Peavey 15" @ 38 lbs.
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jerry12x
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Lol. I am the powered speaker stand.
I lay the speaker on its side.
Shove the stand in and lift the speaker till it is upright.
Not very macho I know.
I can no longer lift both 450's above my head to place on the stands.
They really like Peaveys but are in love with the punchy SRM450's.
It will be a case of can they afford the extra £350 for the lighter V2's.
They are going with the Yamaha desk recommended.
Between them they have a Beyer M88TG which has the best feedback rejection I have ever heard and the high singer has a Shure beta 87 which really suits her voice.
I am giving them my Peavey monitor as I am looking at the Mackie SRM150. 7.5 Lbs.
Has anyone heard them yet...
I havn't. I need to know if they are good enough.
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jerry12x @ Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:48 pm wrote: I can no longer lift both 450's above my head to place on the stands.
I can't either, so I had to resort to lifting one at a time. 
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Duh...
Never thaught of that.
I could do it but would have to prep with my asthma inhaler first.
Any feedback on the SRM150....
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I don't post much here, but I read the boards daily. After 20 years running shows, and using a variety of combinations, here is my suggestion for two ladies needing a lightweight system. At 62 years old, I too need light weight, and here's what I'm using now.
I ust a Yamaha EMX5014. Plenty of channels, built in effects, EQ, compressor, sweepable mid, plenty of power, and best of all, only 22 pounds. Couple that with a pair of Peavey PR15's and you have a lightweight system the ladies can handle. I also use crank up speaker stands that allow me to lift the speakers only about waist high, then crank then as high as I need without straining. If you folks still think the ladies need something a little sturdier like the Mackies, or what ever, the crank stands still help you avoid hifting any higher than waist high.
As an after thought, I put both speakers on one stand, run mono, and use the other channel for my sub (or monitor). Two main speakers on one stand makes for one less thing to carry in, and they're light.
O-K guys, rip me up. I can take it.
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Thank you for your input.
The desk at 22 Lbs is tempting.
The trouble is, the desk not only has to be simple.
It has to look simple. Your desk would over face them.
The wind up stands...
You have sold me.
I will get them. Thanks.
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jerry12x @ Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:23 pm wrote: Thank you for your input.
The desk at 22 Lbs is tempting.
The trouble is, the desk not only has to be simple.
It has to look simple. Your desk would over face them.
The wind up stands...
You have sold me.
I will get them. Thanks.
(psssst......Yamaha box powered mixer and the Peavey PR15 )
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letitrip @ Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:19 am wrote: timberlea @ Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:05 pm wrote: If you're thinking Mckie, then go Yorkville NX55. They sound better good bass, great warranty, almost impossible to kill them. http://www.yorkville.com/products.asp?t ... =22&id=339If you're looking for used, try to see if there are any NX520s or 550s out there. They are earlier versions and still sound great. We've had out 520s for 8-9 years now, playing 6 nights a week in various bars. We use two Rubbermaid tubs to transport them in to protect them. Pics of them are in my gallery. And they weigh even more than the Mackie SRM450's which the OP already was worried would be too heavy. See Jerry, this is what I tried to say before, you're going to get a lot of opinions and unfortunately most of the time they're based on what people own themselves, not what's best for your application. I gotta run right now, but I'll give you a more detailed comparisson of the Mackie and EON's a little later. Me has these! Clear, crisp. Still amazed by the lows coming out of these lightweight 12 inch speakers!
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ripman8 @ Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:49 am wrote: letitrip @ Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:19 am wrote: timberlea @ Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:05 pm wrote: If you're thinking Mckie, then go Yorkville NX55. They sound better good bass, great warranty, almost impossible to kill them. http://www.yorkville.com/products.asp?t ... =22&id=339If you're looking for used, try to see if there are any NX520s or 550s out there. They are earlier versions and still sound great. We've had out 520s for 8-9 years now, playing 6 nights a week in various bars. We use two Rubbermaid tubs to transport them in to protect them. Pics of them are in my gallery. And they weigh even more than the Mackie SRM450's which the OP already was worried would be too heavy. See Jerry, this is what I tried to say before, you're going to get a lot of opinions and unfortunately most of the time they're based on what people own themselves, not what's best for your application. I gotta run right now, but I'll give you a more detailed comparisson of the Mackie and EON's a little later. Me has these! Clear, crisp. Still amazed by the lows coming out of these lightweight 12 inch speakers! By the way, these only weight 42 lbs, not 47. I also have the behringer 215a which is 51 lbs. There is a huge difference in lifting one vs the other.
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jerry12x
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There has been so much good said about Yorkville on this forum.
We don't have them in the YUK.
Unless you know different.
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Jer best to contact Yorkville to see if they have any distributors there. If not, you could be the first. Could be some serious coin.
And don't forget my finder's fee. 
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timberlea @ Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:13 pm wrote: Jer best to contact Yorkville to see if they have any distributors there. If not, you could be the first. Could be some serious coin. And don't forget my finder's fee. Actually not a bad idea at all.
Well I went for a pair of SRM350's V2.
Now I am worried.
Can't try them till tomorrow night's gig.
They are tiny. So light it feels like they are empty.
What if they are...
Feels the same weight as my Eon 10 G2.
I will be using them with an EV SB122 sub.
Someone please tell me they are ok.
I am tempted to use my 450's instead.
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