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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:37 pm 
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Marble @ Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:48 am wrote:
BigJer @ Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:25 am wrote:

Makes sense to me Joe, but I'm curious about how you went about demonstrating that caring. Any particular actions you took, or are we just talking about conversing with them in a friendly matter when you happen to run into them somewhere?

I already do talk to people just because it's natural for me to act that way, but I was thinking about anything else special that you do for the people who have come to your show.


Natural friendliness is a BIG key.

I offer to buy any tracks they want (which will easily outfox an illegal system for a while, whilst the owner waits for it to come availiable on a download site, assuming they can even be bothered).

I also make an extra special effort for birthdays, and always have cards and in some cases presents. For the last regular it was a bottle of champane (but then it was his 50th and he has been an absolute star this year in helping me out), the one before received http://www.gettingpersonal.co.uk/personalised-pictures/personalised-world-tour-print.htm and others have been given little personalised chocolates or (shhh) a cd of them singing.

Where possible I try and make their special events or join them on a night out. I also check that they are okay if they haven't been around for a while.

For new customers I do cheat a little, I write down their name and song on a card so I can remember them, but then if they come to my show three times and i'll know who are anyway.

I also take photo's of everyone (with permission) and stick them on facebook x


Wow! What a fantastic idea. Hope it's not patented cuz I'm stealing it!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:11 pm 
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angel910 @ Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:44 am wrote:
jamkaraoke @ Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:54 am wrote:

Then after you do all that ....75% won't leave the bar anyway --They were not YOUR customers but the BARS ...they go to the venue because of location etc.

The only people who will follow you any where are FRIENDS and FAMILY and then at a new venue ...that just rasies eyebrows from those regulars LOL

I make it a point when looking for a new gig.. I never promise or estimate the size of my following --- Can't guarantee what someone else will do


Exactly.

When i start a new bar i don't expect anyone to follow me. Seen it happen too many times. I just count on building a new crowd at every new job. People don't like change. That's why it's usually so hard to get new nights going in the first place. It's why everyone sits in the same spot week after week. They are sitting in the same seat from the first time they came to that bar. It's their comfort zone.

Just tonight i had an awesome crowd. Many new people. I told one girl why it was taking so long to sing. I had 25-30 singers. She said there were people from an old bar 5 miles away that i no longer work. She said it sucks. I thought she was going to say something bad about the new KJ. She said no the KJ was fantastic. But the bartender runs everyone out at 1 o'clock. The karaoke is 9-1. She wants everyone gone at 1. So people are getting mad about it.

The point of that story is not one person followed me to the new job 6 months ago. Think about that.

For too many years i have been hearing the old "how big is your following?" I tell them don't expect a bus load of people to walk in behind me because it doesn't work that way. Never did and never will. We do it the old fashioned way. One new person at a time. It's the same for every other KJ too. The price doesn't matter. The number of songs doesn't matter. The drink prices don't matter. The atmosphere doesn't matter. The sound system doesn't matter. Doesn't matter how much you kissed their butts. Or how many parties you had for them or how many Emails you sent. If they want to come they will. If they don't they usually won't.

Smoking or non smoking matters. That's about it. Take it to the bank. :angel:





Wow, worth repeating. ""The point of that story is not one person followed me to the new job 6 months ago. Think about that.""

I thought about it. I have an opinion on it. If you interact with people at your shows as you do with us on this forum, I know why. Because you p$ss them off!

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I've known a few people with lots of seniority who are as dumb as a door.

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diafel @ Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:28 pm wrote:
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I'll stand corrected and revise my figure down to over 4000 approaching 5000 that i have personally done. That still puts me way ahead in experience than the average KJ. In any part of the country and the world. You only get that from seniority. :angel:

That also proves you not only to be a braggart but a liar as well.


Not a liar just did some fast math and goofed. Still well over 4000 heading to 5000. Still more than the average KJ here.

Seriously don't you think spendng money on birthday cards and gifts is a little over the top. Mainly i say this from the money aspect. It could cost a small fortune to do it for every singer. And if you discriminate and only do it for some and not all, i think it looks even worse than not doing it at all. Just like buying drinks for some and not all. I never started the drink buying gimmick and i never will. I know a girl that drinks water unless someone is buying and all of a sudden she wants a Long Island Ice Tea at about $8-10 a glass. No thanks.

I like my singers and care about them but spending lots of cash isn't my idea of how to get and keep singers. I did hear about a sick lady tonight and i'll get her a get well card but i'm not doing every birthday, anniversary and special occasion every week. I don't need to "buy" my singers loyalty. I treat them fairly and they become regulars. I can get as much milage from free hugs. :angel:


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Truth is not bragging. :angel:


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...and bragging isn't usually truth, so why do it???


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Actually, I don't think Angel is lying, or bragging, I think she ACTUALLY sincerely believes EVERYTHING that she is saying. Nothing that a bit of THERAPY can't help. I think her ONLY problem is that she refuses to take advice, and SEEK MENTAL HELP!!!
Nothing personal Angel, just my opinion. Hope it helps.

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angel910 @ Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:34 am wrote:
Truth is not bragging. :angel:


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