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So as a Singer and strickly a singer.....am I to infer from all this banter,

IF I bring an ORIGINAL disc to your show as a KJ....and you play it and it
plays like a champ...and you or your assistant SCRATCHES the everloving dog..it out of it after you take out and throw it on the table amongst the pens and cables and other assorted junk, before I get back up to the table to pick it up (WHICH I KNOW NONE OF YOU WOULD EVER DO, but...) and I come back the next week (or the next night) to your show...and politely remind you that I was here last week (night) and do you remember my singing from "such and such" disc.... and I inquire as to whether you are going to reimburse me for the ORIGINAL disc (that you required me to have before you would play it)....that you or your assistant gouged...you are going to tell me...."NO WAY, JOSE'!!!!, you should've left your disc at home"??

Is that what I hear here?....

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Still kickin', jes' aint raisin' much dust !

I've lost two originals due to bad kjs... and that's why I have to trust them to do that from now on!

YES, I let singers know, I will take every precaution to care for your CD's, but if something happens, I AM SORRY

Now, if i were to abuse your cd (drop on floor, or grind it into the table), I would get you a new one

One of my singers came in one night, and i put his disc in and it wouldn't come up... ejected the cd and it had a hub crack going into the data section of track 1. I told him that his cd was not working, and that i would see what i could do.... he told me, "well another host got it stuck in her JVC 6-pack player and had to get the 6pack out with a screwdriver"

I grabbed the hub of the CD and snapped i back into place and it did playu for him..... i told him if he wanted i would keep the CD and re-make it for him (this was a custom he paid $$$ for)
The other host had to have seen the damage done to the singer's CD, but didn't want to admit it to the singer

For the record: you cannot use a CD and NOT scratch it, it is impossible.... I have bought a CDG, and unwrapped it and put it in the CD-RW drive and played the CD a couple times, and yes there were tiny scratches, nothing to be done to stop it, but stop using the original

I always inspect the disc that you might hand me before it goes into my player. I check for visible damage that may prevent it from playing properly, and if I see this, I will bring it back to you and make sure you are aware that I did not damege the disc. If the disc is dirty/smudges (which more often than not, they are), I clean it first (bvrfore putting it in my machine)... BTW, I accept the use of burns from people at my show.

Hello fellow singers and kj's.

I've posted little to the boards round here however I really enjoy the site and commentary.

Thought 1: Just because someone brings in a burned disc does not mean they are a theif or pirate.

A few weeks back I paid for and downloaded 2 MP3 tracks online from I think, singingstation. I then converted them to WAV and burned them to disc to use at shows. No screen lyrics but forces me to learn the damn song and not use the monitor as a cruch either

Thought 2: Many if not most karaoke disc I have bought or ever seen have a disclaimer saying, "Not for public use or performance."

Thought 3: If a club, a kj provides services for and does NOT pay BMI or ASCAP and the kj does not, most i've known never have or ever will, just because the disc is purchased does not give legal right for public performance or to earn money from karaoke shows.

Personally my feelings are that a kj should not assume because a disc is burned it's not paid for.

Also, like others, I had 2 disc I had less than a few months get not scratched but cracked by a kj's maybe the same one. I have never myself scratched a disc to where it would not play let alone crack one!

This p****d me off to no end. Fortunately I was able to salvage most of the songs I wanted, however lost some good ones, and get them to copy.

I now use these copies because of careless kj's.

Just like all kj's are not careless, do not play favorites with rotation, do not intentionally screw up the mix on singers who have better voices because of an inferiority complex not all..........

Singers who use burned disc are non paying free loading singers not supporting the industry.

Just some things to ponder the next time a kj plays judge and jurry on who is using pirated disc AT SHOWS.

If the industry is not putting their foot down why waste your valuable time worrying about the singers? Are THEY taking money out of your pocket because they are playing copied disc?

Hey..if your singers are all drinking water, playing burned discs and ride in on the bus, or on bicycle, maybe you should ban them from the show


Believe me, I DO understand both sides of the fence. I was a very successful host for many years and know the delima but have been out of the business for some time now.

Now, strictly from a singers standpoint, I sure see the customers point of view.

In the long run I believe a kj and a show will be a success as long as the host concentraits on being the best host they can be, running top notch sound and welcoming and greeting their customers.

Worrying about a singer using a burned disc is very unlikely going to get a show shut down and will do nothing to grow your business.

Lastly.. I now realize this is not really what the topic was..as it's about the studio situation.

This guy wont be in business long and if he is that arrogant nobody will like his work or recording with him so natural attrition should take care of that. Let's hope!

Happy Memorial Weekend!

Jim

Jim..
You have some issues... I have met you, sir.. not all of us agree on what the proper way to go in this business of karaoke.. but in Entertainment cities such as LA, Las Vegas, Nashville, and such, Some don't drink Alcohol. Some don't drink soda. Water is a Natural fact of life but they could tip the Servers & KJ's, Granted. And still the venues are trying to force a way to make a buck. Personally I Drink water when I sing.. But Like you an Entertainment Professional. IF they wanna a buck, I'll pay the KJ out of my own pocket and I'll sing all night to my OWN original tracks.

As for the careless KJ's if I see another one again it won't be too soon. As a KJ myself, I would replace at MY expense a CD+G that I Damaged myself, BUT even as you should know.. even a NEW cd gets scratched just playing it ONCE.

I wish you the best.

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Brian D.
(BHB)

We've met?

If so, I have no idea where or when.

Let me know as now im very curious as to who you are.

Thanks for your feedback and input.

James,
I have Performed Professionally in LV 4 times now. doing Country music, I also Provided the Monitor system in co-operation with Kammo's Karaoke for the casting call for the movie "Elvis Has Left the Building" in Albuquerque last winter, where over 300 ELVI Professionals and thier wannabes showed up to cast for the movie. The night was VERY RELIGIOUS.

I have recording connections there also. I am also an A/V Professional and do get there often with tradeshows, and music business. Maybe I have not met you but I have seen your name in many places.

I'm sure as a performer we do share alot of ideals.

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Brian D.
(BHB)

The use of illegally copied CD+G's hurt us all. As legitimate KJ's using purchased CD+G's we are forced to compete with other KJ's using bootleg copies. Because we follow the rules, we unable to work at hourly rates as low as the illegals. Therefore, the use of illegally copies CD+G is gradually cheapening our profession. This illegal practice contributes to competitive price undercutting that utimately lowers the hourly rate we are all paid.

The following is a letter sent to various clubs in the Vancouver B.C. area in the recent past ..... Names have been omitted for obvious reasons.

Re: Illegal Karaoke Sound Recordings

Dear ___________

As a club owner who either owns a karaoke system, or employs a karaoke jockey (Who has a karaoke system.) We would like to take this opportunity to inform you that KAPA (Karaoke Anti-piracy Association) and its member are stepping up efforts and activities to stop illegal playing of and dealing in karaoke sound recordings. Our efforts will be directed to both criminal and civil sanctions provided by state and federal laws. The civil sanctions consist of violations of Copyright Law and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, both of which carry penalties of up to One Hundred Fifty Thousand Dollars ($150,000) per violation. Additionally, criminal penalties of jail time and fines for intentional violations are possible. As a club owner, you are responsible for any violations by karaoke jockeys who are playing illegal karaoke sound recordings at your club. Please help us reduce illegal karaoke sound recordings by making certain that your establishment does not support or encourage the playing of illegal karaoke sound recordings by karaoke jockeys or unscrupulous club owners.

We have a toll free number 888-465-5200 as well as a website (www.karaokeantipiracyagency.com) to provide you with more information. Enclosed you will find a flyer with pictures of original CDG’s as well as how to identify any illegal copied CDG. Copies can be easily identified by the color of the CDG (A gold or silver recordable Disk.) with a paper label or no label. In most cases, illegal CDG labels are of a lesser graphic quality printed on home printers. Original CDG labels are a 4-color paint process similar to the silkscreen process. Original CDG’s carry the replication plant identification number near the hole of the disk, and carry a bar code holograph. Illegal copies will carry a blue or green tint on the backside of the disk.

Very truly yours,

Please take the time to visit this KAPA site to get legal facts about making copies of your cd+g's.

I'm amazed at the amount of disinformation circulating regarding this issue. This URL has been furnished for the benefit of all.

http://www.karaokeantipiracyagency.com/faq.html

AMAZING!!!

300,000 karaoke shows + in the US and not a single prosecution in the last calendar year of a REAL Karaoke Pirate!

KAPA WAY TO GO!

I call that SUCCESS!!!

Let me and my copyright attorney tesitfy at the next trial PLEASE!!

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Brian D.
(BHB)

that, and SC has lost a few cases going against people who copy their PURCHASED discs and run off those.

Most of the cases were dismissed even before trial... and the judge sided with the purchasers... the only time the law gets really involved is piracy for PROFIT, those that steal another's work and sell it...

not those people that are merely looking to protect their original investment.

Matt,
I read about those in one legal journal my Music industry attorney forwarded to me.. There were a total of 3 cases cited in this article and all 3 cases were lost to the KJ's Under the "Fair Use Act" under the present copyright laws.

The Types I have been ranting about are those who have 3 to 10 systems and only maybe have 1 to 2 sets of master media. OR NONE AT ALL!!!

And make copies and selling them to thier customers!

Now that is not right at all!

I say that's where they need to spend thier time in court.

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Brian D.
(BHB)