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Maybe the way you run your shows. Not at mine. I hear about bad sounding karaoke shows all the time and it's from karaoke singers. Somebody cares. Most KJs don't even care. That's the difference between karaoke shows.

Some go to sing, some go to socialize and sing a little. Discerning singers know the difference. Many KJs don't care, and don't even know what they're doing; worse yet, that there is a problem at all, let alone how to fix it. I also hear about poor sound from people all the time; nothing I can do about it, I suggest to them.

What gets my goat is I go to a show with crappy sound, know that in less than one minute I could turn it around and make it sound good. Not the best way to make friends and influence people.

"karaoke is not about the sound...it's about the experiance"

I think that like anything else we get into habits, and as KJs we let our sound quality decline once we have done a hundred shows or more.

I am fighting it hard but I know I sometimes drift off and am a bit more a creature of habit on the off nights.

There is always a bit of difference from singer to singer to make them sound their best in terms of volume, and from track to track in terms of sound balance etc.

I feel I regularly have many good singers, that may not be the case. But so long as they believe they are good, and so do I it is enough.

As a singer I know sometimes I cant do a decent job with a song if the sound system is either bad or poorly run.

I know I may not always get it right, but I try.

Also over time equipment fades, it may not actually break but the quality can degrade. On a day to day basis it may not be noticeable, but eventually the equipment may not cut it anymore. A cheap system may sound pretty good on the first month or so then decline, and an expensive system that is 10 years old, and used hard may not provide the great sound it may have provided in the past.

If a show is full of regulars, they may be creatures of habit as well and not notice the decline in equipment or DJ attention either.

Dangerously close to stealing my line. "It isn't karaoke, it's a karaoke experience!"

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

What then, makes you a "Very good KJ?" Lets face it, you might suck and not know it just like the rest of us.

Addressing the OPs opening remark. Karaoke is like a pool table or a dart board, even the cheapest equipment will get some play. It's all about the party.

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Okay, who took my pants?

Maybe to you, i am concerned with the sound. Good sound can make a good experience. Bad sound can ruin that experience fast.

Jam didnt mean it the way you took it

[quote= What gets my goat is I go to a show with crappy sound, know that in less than one minute I could turn it around and make it sound good. Not the best way to make friends and influence people.[/quote]

You too.... ....this drives me crazy and I have to bite my lower lip and either put up with it or leave. I find most KJ's are offended if you make any suggestions so I never say a word, I just deal with it. I'm normally outta there after my first song as the temptation is too great.

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Scott

If I may oh great one..... I would assume any half azzed KJ is concerned somewhat about the sound they produce. But if you concern yourself TOO much with the sound ..you can forget about giving the singers a good experiance. NOT THAT YOU EVER WOULD

The concept of many singers who go out to sing is all about the experiance...yes you need DECENT sound but you don't need GREAT sound to have a GREAT experiance

Thank you Jerry...I'm starting to see what everyones been seeing about
It's amazing in some of the posts how she insults people without skipping a beat ( I don't mean me) it was the previous posts You just got to roll the eyes and bow to others greatness !

Great sound can make a not so good singer have a good experience. A bad sound can make a great singer have a bad experience.

That's the problem too many Half AZZED KJS could care less about their sound. As just mentioned in previous posts. So how many good karaoke experiences are there really out there? Sounds like not too many.

I guess since i'm in a minority about worrying about having good sound that must make me the great one.

I want every singer to have a great experience at my shows. The only way i know how to make it the very best is by having a great sounding system. Anything less would be embarrassing to me. Not many KJs care as much or more than i do. I can see it all around me.

I don't go to other shows anymore because they are always disappointing to say the least. So why go to not sing. That ruins my good experience. How much fun can it be if you hear the system and you don't want to sing on it? That is as low as it gets.

Who & when did i insult now?

You too.... ....this drives me crazy and I have to bite my lower lip and either put up with it or leave. I find most KJ's are offended if you make any suggestions so I never say a word, I just deal with it. I'm normally outta there after my first song as the temptation is too great. [/quote]

I actually like it when people make suggestions. . . Every ear is different. What annoys me, is when people don't always accept my methods or listen to my reasons why I do something.

Most suggestions I take on board.

and I will always smile sweetly at the gentleman who insists that calling people up for two songs in a row is quicker and better and the one young lad who always says (regardless of the mix) to turn the treble up.

Providing you are polite, I will adere or at the very least consider your request. If you are rude and/or have shocking mic technique I either pretend to do what you ask. . . or do exactly what you tell me. "Echo??? Why of course sir...sir....sir...sir"

I actually like it when people make suggestions. . . Every ear is different. What annoys me, is when people don't always accept my methods or listen to my reasons why I do something.

Most suggestions I take on board.

and I will always smile sweetly at the gentleman who insists that calling people up for two songs in a row is quicker and better and the one young lad who always says (regardless of the mix) to turn the treble up.

Providing you are polite, I will adere or at the very least consider your request. If you are rude and/or have shocking mic technique I either pretend to do what you ask. . . or do exactly what you tell me. "Echo??? Why of course sir...sir....sir...sir"[/quote]



My hubby is like this. Right now, he does fill in KJ work when needed. This time next year, we will be living in north Alabama and since he will no longer be in an area of "competition" for the folks he works for now, he plans on going into the KJ business. He doesn't mind if someone gives him tips to help him out. However, you have to watch that. To many people do mind and don't want advice. You can make an enemy real quick doing that.

Bad sound is like nails on a chalkboard. I was surprised that people stick around for that.

The Bar I run on a Friday night is using the owner's hard-wired-in equipment,and the owner has another kj on saturdays...(I have another gig Usually on Saturdays). Of course,he has the sound set different to mine...(too much treble..not enough bass...mic too loud etc)..and the odd occasion I have been in on a Saturday I have had to resist the temptation to alter the sound...it would be highly unprofessional. Plus,I would hate it if someone tried to do it on me!
I suppose its the KJ's preference at the end of the day..and what HE thinks sounds good

I'm not sure if you've been oblivious to all the other posts about your arrogance in your statements. I applaud a confident KJ but you spend more time patting yourself on the back and tooting your own horn than actually giving any advice to the OP of all these topics. I generally ignore the ignorant unless they start to quote my statements to make a point of how good they think they are. If JERRY could see it ..it must me true. Here is a little hint Angel on how to play nice...If you have to start every response with " As a very Good KJ" or "MAYBE THE WAY YOU RUN YOUR SHOWS" or some other HORN TOOTING statement ....rethink it !

It just advice you seem like a very passionate KJ but does everyone really have to hear in every post HOW GOOD YOU ARE ? pleeeeaze

Unprofessional?????? NOT changing the EQ when needed is what's unprofessional! "One size fits all," is NOT a maxim for a mix.

The acoustics of a room can change minute to minute, simply from the amount of people in it, tables getting moved around, where people are standing, temperature, humidity, and a slew of other factors. If there's a large variance in the amount of people in the room, you may need to adjust the EQ and volume to compensate for the change in how sound energy is reflected around the room. People make wonderful baffles for sound energy. What sounds good in a packed bar may sound awful early in the evening or late at night when there's fewer people there.

Here's an excellent page on the basic physics of sound, and how a room can affect it.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/sound/

Change your EQ if it's needed. The customers will thank you for it. If the other KJ is "set and forget," he needs to change that practice too.

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Dave's not here.

In most/many cases it's ignorance.

I believe that those KJ who frequent this board and similar boards are better off than the majority out there. Some come here to learn, some to share their experience and thus gain knowledge.

Some are here to preach

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I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott

I had one venue where the owner was adamant that the system was set perfect. . . and to be fair he did have an audio engineer fit it, I was given strict instructions not to touch anything other than the volume.

PFFT. I drew a diagram of the settings at the start of the show. . . then adapted the settings throughout the show. . . only to place every thing back as I found it at the end.

A few times the owner would come over to play some Dj tracks after I closed the show, but before I could put everything back, he never looked at the desk properly so therefore never noticed. Usually in this situation I'd panic and just "whack" everything back, as soon as his back would turn. The customers noticed the sudden difference. He didn't.

I still get told off today by other hosts for touching buttons on shared mixing desks. Interestingly a lot of customers who visit both shows say they prefer my sound.

I agree.. I have a very good friend of mine who is a KJ ( actually got me started ) anyway - She runs the mix and show they way she wants. The mix has over the top effects to where it sound like you're singing in a cave. I've tried a few times to adjust the mix when visiting her shows only to be shot down and told "don't touch anything" Opposite when she comes to my shows ...NOT ENOUGH ECHO ---too much bass ...yadda yadda yadda.

Running a mix for most of us is a personal thing with some of the basics thrown in.
I admit when I first began ... I too had too much echo --smiley face EQ and other NOW KNOWN NO NO"S ....

It's why we come here to learn, discuss and to share our experiances ..but never PREACH !!!