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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:11 am 
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Another view is that I go to the same bar relatively regularly on other nights of the week besides the one night I run the Karaoke.

A person I see at the bar most nights of the week is the Bar's customer even if they get out and sing on karaoke night.

On the other hand a person who is almost never in the bar EXCEPT on karaoke nights is a karaoke customer, and in some way mine.

Of course there are in-between people who make most karaoke shows and sometimes go to the venue other nights.

If the attraction (entertainment) brought the customer into the bar it is YOUR customer that you are giving to the bar. If the customer is at the bar anyway it is the bar's customer.

I used to frequent a bar on karaoke night, and I probably went to the bar for karaoke 100 times before I ever made it into the bar on the other 6 nights of the week they did not have karaoke. I was clearly a karaoke customer there.

Other people I knew were at that same bar 6 nights a week regardless... They were not the karaoke customers even when they did sing.

We must also realize that there are people out there who don't like karaoke (I don't understand them but I know they exist). They might be at the bar and leave because of the entertainment to go elsewhere or may just not like your show (or you or some of your other customers or the crowd). These should be thought of as Your negative customers.

At the end of the show what you have to think is how much the karaoke brought into the venue in terms of people in addition to the normal level.

As KJs we should not treat the two classes diferently, but we have to keep them in mind in terms of what we are providing the venue, and how much we are worth to the venue when negotiating pay.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:14 am 
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Dr Fred @ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:11 am wrote:
Another view is that I go to the same bar relatively regularly on other nights of the week besides the one night I run the Karaoke.

A person I see at the bar most nights of the week is the Bar's customer even if they get out and sing on karaoke night.

On the other hand a person who is almost never in the bar EXCEPT on karaoke nights is a karaoke customer, and in some way mine.

Of course there are in-between people who make most karaoke shows and sometimes go to the venue other nights.

If the attraction (entertainment) brought the customer into the bar it is YOUR customer that you are giving to the bar. If the customer is at the bar anyway it is the bar's customer.

I'm not so sure about that?
The next post may in fact reveal the definitive answer?
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:28 am
short reply but i everyone has made very good points, especially Fred and Kurt, in my opinion. Very Happy

Be careful with your spending budget and get what you only need for your particular show, and maximize your time and the customers.

The customer belongs to the bar whom gets paid first and we are a only a fixure to enhance the bar, hired by the bar, paid by the bar, so BOTH BELONG to the bar, until we/they decide otherwise.

Try getting "your" singers to your house and charge them the SAME prices for drinks and your karaoke FEE and see how many show up!

What if a KJ rented a hall and made the same invitation and charged a cover charge for the rental?


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When they enter the venue and sign up to sing, they are MY customers.

When they start complaining, being unruly, rude, or obnoxious, I gladly hand them over to the BAR. :)

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