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Hello,

Have not been on here much and so don't know if this has been brought up. I have been kicking around the idea of putting something on that I think might just get the interest up for karaoke from what it is now.

I read post on here and a lot say that the numbers are down as far as singers or just getting a crowd into a club so here is and idea and let me know what you think please.

We use to do karaoke and now I dj at a bar that does not have karaoke but my wife likes to sing so we stay involved with it and as a money making idea I thought I might try something like this.

If you have enough good singers (and usually every place has somewhere between 5 and 10 that can actually sing) get together with the better ones and put together a show that will go on in your club. I was going to call mine...A Night Out with Your Friends...and what you would actually be doing is making all the singers responsible for learning and knowing XX amount of songs that they will sing that night.

Advertise this in a way that gets people thinking about it and that it might be nice to go out and listen to some local talent and not just a bunch of drunks drooling on mics. Offer dinner if Your place is set up for it. Have a show that would last for at least 3 hours and advertise the hell out of dancing and having a good time. No band just a kj there to load music and introduce each person as they come to sing their sets...Have the music they sing something that is in their wheel house but also something that a mixed crowd could dance to.

Anyway you get the drift I hope, just actually putting on a show but it's really karaoke and people who take it in will be saying man I never knew He or She sang and that was really good.

Anyway thank you for reading all that but what do you think and what would you do to make a night like this go over well? remember it's not just karaoke it's a night out on the town.

People here don't dance to karaoke.

I like the idea, I would make the people that want to sing, market it and just sit back and collect the $$ to KJ.

I couldn't see this working here but maybe other places.

We get dancing to karaoke every night.

We used to do something similar, kind of a showcase of singers. It worked well for a while. Also did an impersonator show with some of the singers called An Evening With The Stars. We actually had tryouts & worked with about 10 singers that were able to pull off a very nice show.

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We talked here a couple of months ago about a show by a gal in San Diego who does something similar, except it wasn't a special night, it's the way she does her weekly show.

I could see doing it as a special performance as long as it's promoted in advance for people coming to sing that the night is a rehearsed performance with designated singers - not a "karaoke show". It would be more like an American Idol "All-Stars" show.

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It sounds like a good way to introduce karaoke to a new place. It could be touchy if you were already established as the singers who didn't make the cut might be offended. But we actually started with just that concept on a small scale--my boyfriend and his son worked together a show and then opened things up for karaoke afterwards. The bar owner didn't want karaoke two nights in a row and wanted live music and the son was an aspiring singer/songwriter who wanted a showcase but didn't have 5 hours worth of material yet. So we did a "hybrid" show. It packed the place and people had a lot of fun singing themselves afterwards.

I like Lonman's idea about the them/impersonator night. We might think have to steal that.

Thanks for the input.

I have seen it both ways around here, some nights people get up and dance and others they just sit there and wish there was a better singer up there.

Just a thought that has been kicking around in my head but who really knows. I do know that it would take some special advertising and yes it really isn't karaoke although it is but more like American Idol but I think that's the best part of it, the people singing are not going to get up there and destroy songs and make the people who do show up wonder why they have karaoke and the ones they bring with them will be going,"I never knew there was that kind of talent around here!" and at the end of the night maybe karaoke takes a step or two up in a lot of peoples minds.

Probably get most of the crowd from friends, family etc. because of what the gig is.

Anyway just a thought.

For some of our regular's birthday parties we have during the year, we'll sometimes have them "dress the part" of their singers and we'll get our share of Elvi', Michael Jacksons, Bruce Springsteens, Marilyn Monroes, Prince, 50's beeboppers and slickers.

We have a pretty good collections of outfits and props from over the years to suit most people. Hats, wigs, leather jackets, 25 gallon hats, boas, capes, velcro pants, etc...everything pretty much we can find leftover from the costume shops the day after halloween at 75% off. Some regulars donate costumes to us as well.

My format has evolved from many bar gigs and many parties. It is dynamic in the fact we change on a song by song basis and give the crowd what they want. It varies from DJ DJ/Dance to old time karaoke. Most of my karaoke customers have hired me for private parties which demanded a combination of all formats, thus at bar gigs they request both DJ/Dance and karaoke songs. If anybody is dancing the song is not faded into karaoke or the crowd starts hollering.

Our biggest tills have been a result of the format described by the OS with occasional full blown karaoke. Hard core drunk singers do not stay at our shows. We do not have to advertise what type of shows we do as the format is determined by the crowd on a constant basis. Bar owners ask me what works now and my response is karaoke only doesnt do it DJ is sometimes better but a combination of both is the upcoming trend and is what most demand now. Please check my website and see what we have to offer. We can provide any format or a combination that works.

Give me ten good singers and we will improve the crowd at any venue. It is not a thoeory or new idea I have been doing it for 3 years and have perfected it.

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I like the idea, somethings to consider.
Once you make the singers responsible for something like a SONG and DATE & TIME. Some might look to be COMPENSATED for their time and efforts. ..something to think about.

I would still leave room for OTHER singers and promote your show in a way NOT TO GET DRUNK people who can't sing. You may be surpised how many good singers may show up to sing 1 song for the right audience.

The venue would play a big part in a show like that ..more of a hotel lounge or restaurant versus the beer and shot bars.

Also a THEME would be a great way to promote a monthly show like that
50's music - Country Music - etc etc

I agree with the approach for the new place and the impersonator night. But as a regular at a few places, it wouldn't draw me in that night to the point of I've got to check it out. Now if a friend was in it maybe, but if I was asked, not my thing.

I like the creativity though.

Jam you read my mind. I love a creative idea like this, but I can see people asking if they will be paid.

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Thats why karaoke is perfect-- singers come out to be the show and the KJ's get paid. The singers have a great time and there is no real pressure. Once you make "demands" of the singers and your expectations of them RISE .

People will surely ask for money

There was a venue in this area that tried the "showcase" angle. She would go around and ask singers to come and appear at her "showcase," of course all the time betting on the fact that these showcase singers would bring all their friends in. It worked for a while. Not sure why they quit. Guess I'm fortunate to bring good singers without calling it a showcase, but most nights that's what it ends up being....bunch of great singers who bring in friends, and those who just come to be entertained.

I get dancing every week at my wednesday night gig.

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The problem is that for every good singer there is a bad (or just average) singer that thinks they are good.

If you pick from your regulars the "good" singers you risk offending some of your other regulars who don't make the cut.

The "average" singers may not be as exciting to listen to, but without them it is hard to keep the crowd.

It is also a question of crowds as well. If you suceed in attracting a crowd to your showcase show, someone who you may not know may insist that they want a turn to sing too. You will either have to resist that, and I suspect it may be hard if you have a big crowd, as there may be lots of requests. Once you give in to the first one the doors are open and you are just at a "regular" karaoke show.

Finally coordinating a group of people to all be there for one show (your best singers) is going to be hard, and probably not all of your first choices may make it.

Yes there are a lot of things to consider when I first thought of it I kind of looked at it like this, It really is a performance for the crowd not an open karaoke show...when bands show up they don't let people jump up and sing and although I can see what you are getting at the way it is advertised and presented needs to be different than just a karaoke show.

As far as ticking off regular customers I don't know, there are those people in the middle that can sing some but just not quite there enough to be part of the show and I think most of them are able to see that but there will be some.

My wife can sing and I know she is good enough at some songs to sing to a crowd like this but as good as she is she also will be the first person to say WOW that girl or guy can sing. She would know if someone is better even by a little and I am thinking that quite a few would be like that but there would be some.

Some mentioned they might want paid and I had thought of that and I guess I would say here ya go, sell these 50 tickets at $8 each (just numbers I am throwing out ) and you get 30% of what you sell, sell those and you need more you make more. Let them sell the night as well as advertising, tickets 8 bucs or ten at the door.

I was seeing this as a grand night out on the town for the people who show up and not so much a ," Here's Tom to sing a few songs for you" but more of like they are introduced at the start and then the night just happens and then they do a few duets or group songs to end and then that is when people know this is what the good karaoke is like, a nice night out of good music with your friends.

Anyway lots of stuff to consider, I just thank all of you for your input.

I got a buddy who can't sing to save his soul and he is totally oblivious to that fact. He would be the first to ask why he wasn't considered for the show and for me, I don't want the responsibility to tell him the god's honest truth for fear of losing him as a friend, although he does do a great job on Rainy Day Woman by Bob Dylan.

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