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jamkaraoke
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 Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:02 am |
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The answer is YES ..you need to use SOME sort of effects on the vocals.
At the minimum ..just a little reverb etc. To run a completely DRY vocals is doing a disservice to your singers ...even the HIP HOP ONES !!!
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ggardein
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:10 pm |
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enzoab @ Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:10 am wrote: Vocal yes, music, no. As others have said, this is kind of a silly thread. You won't find any popular music on the radio, or even at clubs without everything from reverb to echo to that gosh darn Auto Tune think. T-Pain, I hate you!  . Even classical singers employ some reverb and echo, though lesser that pop singers. I say bring on the vocal effects, don't over use them and you help not only the singer but the audience as well.  Mark there is no such thing as a silly thread......just silly people..... 
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enzoab
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:44 pm |
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nobodyhome @ Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:10 pm wrote: enzoab @ Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:10 am wrote: Vocal yes, music, no. As others have said, this is kind of a silly thread. You won't find any popular music on the radio, or even at clubs without everything from reverb to echo to that gosh darn Auto Tune think. T-Pain, I hate you! . Even classical singers employ some reverb and echo, though lesser that pop singers. I say bring on the vocal effects, don't over use them and you help not only the singer but the audience as well. Mark there is no such thing as a silly thread......just silly people..... I'm right there with them! 
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letitrip
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:34 am |
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I believe from past discussions here, I'm a little more active with my effects than most. Personally from having mixed many of these songs for bands, I'm pretty familiar with what effects belong where and I mix accordingly. If you sit down and really listen to what's going on with the vocals in a song you'll find that the effects change with the flow of the song. Many songs will start out dry then bring in reverb and maybe some delay when they hit the first chorus. Often times the effects on the bridge are either changed or removed. Even if I don't know a song, I can usually come up with some effects cues that make sense with the song and sound really good.
In general, slow songs usually call for more reverb and if you're using delay, a slower delay. If you use delay, the delay time should in most cases fit with the tempo of the song.
I can't imagine running a rig without at least some healthy verb on the vocals.
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enzoab
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:21 am |
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letitrip @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:34 am wrote: In general, slow songs usually call for more reverb and if you're using delay, a slower delay. If you use delay, the delay time should in most cases fit with the tempo of the song.
I can't imagine running a rig without at least some healthy verb on the vocals.
Well put Tony. Hands and ears on at all times. Just like a sound man (person). 
Mark
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jerry12x
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:46 pm |
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When I do my sound check I am always heavier on the reverb.
The landlord tells me to back it off. I never do.
The backing will hide a lot of the reverb.
The landlord always comes over and says "I told you so" 
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SingyThingy
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:56 am |
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I only kj occasionally, but this is what works for me.
For singers with pro or near-pro level tone and consistent vocals, a touch of delay is enough ,maaaayyyybe a little rev. To overuse effects IMO detracts from a great voice....for a good to average voice, moderate effects can be helpful to smooth out rough edge. If more is needed,rather than drown them in effects, I think it is sometimes best to instead encourage the person to choose songs that suit them and are crowd pleasers, which will often get them as good a reaction as the more able singers get.
(edited for crappy spelling )
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