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I rarely am disappointed with the bargains I find. Some discs from those series I paid a good deal more for. But they weren't better when I paid $8 for them. They are what they are and they work for me - quite well indeed.

And what are you sorry about not believing? Who amongst those posting on this thread suggested that anyone has the discs to back up 220,000 track. Who pray tell? So, you have nothing to ask forgiveness for!

Well according to the Big Dog karaoke (originally stating on their site 220K songs) they do buy each disc. Didn't say anyone on this thread made that claim, again was referring to something within the thread.

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Wow, nice pic!!!

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

I got it now, sorry for the misunderstanding. But was there a disclaimer on the BigDog site about all of his discs being purchased when the link was first posted?

It was on their boycott SC line on the front page going to state 'I own my cd's' - giving the implication to the WWW that she does in fact have the original cd's to 220K karaoke songs.

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You gotta be a real dummy to pirate your music and keep the duplicates considering the fines levied for each track.

It sure would suck to have to pay a fine for each of your 50 different versions of MY WAY by Frank Sinatra.

It is my understanding that they try to catch you in violation with a few songs, often from a single show so potentially 10-20 songs that they can prove were in violation and were performed. The law then then treats you as if you are in violation for hundreds/thousands of songs that are likely ALSO in violation and could have been performed.

So one song in violation (and caught) is going to be the same as 1000 in the eyes of the law and lawyers.

Can someone enlighten me as to how SC operate? When you say "SC hit Florida", do they go from venue to venue to check if you're operating legit or a pirate? If you're a pirate do they take info and tell you to "settle now or see you in court", and if you're legit they leave you alone?

Or do they google "Karaoke venues in Miami", take names put you in the docket list and explain yourself later if you're legit or not. Hmmm, just wondering!

I have already stated that IMHO SC suit would set a precedent (if it ever goes to trial). That being said, if you agree with my evaluation and are aware as well of the outcomes of copyrights cases (which this is not), one CANNOT say how the "law then treats you"

At this point no can provide a definitive response as to how the investigations are conducted that result in SC selecting who they will sue. Meanwhile, the possibilities are both obvious and numerous.

They sue first and then send a notification that you have been sued, along with the options you have to avoid the suit.

A kj will be deemed legit only after he passes a SC audit of his computerized karaoke song files while agreeing to some very strict criteria, conditions and sanctions. And, yes IF THEY DEEM you are legit they will leave you alone.

I buy mainly retired collections and off ebay.
It can work on a budget.
I will also buy damaged disks
Then download what I cant recover free off the internet.
I have the original disk.

excellent strategy. i've done similar things

wow...seems not only SC makes money off these pirates, by selling disc they couldn't sell before. But so do other kj's who circle over the targeted venue's like a bunch of vultures over road kill. Save your breaths..most likely the clubs that also got busted, will shortly be out of the karaoke entertainment business entirely. Most likely replaced by a dj, or even a small band. This is actually more of a shot in the foot for the karaoke industry then a blessing. Sure it works out great for the slep's, they collect some much needed chump change. But for the rest of us, it makes for one less venue to perform at. After the sleps cash in, lets see the percentage of clubs they targeted,that aren't to p*ssed *ff and still brave enough to offer karaoke.

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

Amen! Amen! Amen brother!

How about that! People are actually starting to get it!

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

How long has it taken??? It's ABOUT TIME!!!!

And you can take it one step further, if the clubs that were affected by this pull out, they're also telling their peers about what happened. At least in my area, many of the club owners are friends and do talk a lot. As word gets around the overall image of Karaoke hosts will suffer and you could see more owners pulling the plug.

Again I'm back to my point made in other threads. SC could have avoided this by making appropriate changes in business strategy years ago. Granted the doomsday of Karaoke may not be at hand, however I have to imagine that especially in the case of SC that a hit to the pro-KJ industry will be a heavy hit to their pockets as well. I know we've speculated on this before, but I do wonder how long SC would survive with only consumer sales.

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DJ Tony
Let It Rip Karaoke

Another alternative to the scenario is that the smart and informed club owners will just make sure they have a legal host so they can be among the last left standing. We saw a little bit of that in our area from just a bunch of KIAA letters hitting--some laughed and said they would take their chances, some griped and threatened to give up karaoke all together. In our case the owner griped and threatened but in the end just gave everyone the chance to show their discs and got rid of the one who wouldn't, keeping the two hosts who had legal libraries.

Now THAT'S a cool idea! I have a professional resurfacer ( Lon mentioned that he has one too), and I never thought of it.......

Thank you!

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