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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:40 pm 
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jeffsw6 @ Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:27 pm wrote:
I am not impressed by the Ksub. The HPR 181i is a much better powered subwoofer.


Ya know I agree with that statement 100%, the K-sub has great punch but doesn't have the rumble. However if you're going with a smaller speaker like the K12's then the Ksub matches better for it's crossover point. I didn't give it any thought until I want looking for a sub for my K12 speakers. When I got to the nitty gritty anything larger than a 12" unit left a big gap.


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Sugee @ Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:22 pm wrote:
oicclouds @ Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:50 am wrote:
Please help! I have a library of songs converted over to computer files, I have microphones (one SM 58 wireless, one SM 58 wired) but I need recommendations for easy to use, lower end, but quality equipment.

I am looking for something suitable for clubs up to 100 people and the occasional outdoor use. Strictly karaoke and dj only.

I am a begineer ....I will be learning as I go so please keep that in mind!

I have a few books on sound engineering but they are confusing so I was also wondering if you could recommend books written in laymen's terms to help me out!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I and my friends are at a similar point. Some of us have set up small (mainly Vocopro) systems at home, but since our group is growing we want to take our meet-ups outside. We have enough PG/SM/58 mics, music, and Kararoke players with key-control. We just want a good amp/speaker system.

Typically we are about 30-40 folks and we would go to any place where we can rent space cheap for 7-8 hours - a 30 by 20 conference room at a motel to a large church 100 by 100 church basement. We are hoping that some of us will get better and be able to get some wedding/party/charity-show gigs - the equipment has to work for that too, for events of upto 100-200 people. Also hope to put together a small band at some later date.

Therefore we are looking for a amp/speaker system that will do equally well in small venues (played in lower volumes) as well as larger venues, for karaoke as well as small band, and music tracks ranging from ballads to dance to rock. I am trying to read up on sound and audio basics in order to find an optimal PA system for our needs.

We are looking at this one right now: Yamaha EMX512SC/S115V PA Package with Monitors for $2000 including shipping. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... ID=2976624

If anyone here has any thoughts on our situation, I would be most grateful if they shared them. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions and pointers.

Well for the price, it's pretty good price especially with the free lights & speaker stands. It's going to completely blow the sound quality of the VocoPro stuff you are using now away, although you still may want to upgrade the mics to something better. As for using for live music - depending on what kind of a band & music being played - that might be an issue, would not be my first choice in any means, but could work.

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Lonman @ Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:44 am wrote:
Sugee @ Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:22 pm wrote:
We are looking at this one right now: Yamaha EMX512SC/S115V PA Package with Monitors for $2000 including shipping. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... ID=2976624


Well for the price, it's pretty good price especially with the free lights & speaker stands. It's going to completely blow the sound quality of the VocoPro stuff you are using now away, although you still may want to upgrade the mics to something better. As for using for live music - depending on what kind of a band & music being played - that might be an issue, would not be my first choice in any means, but could work.


Thanks Lonman. The band music, whenever we start, we plan for ballads, racy and dance numbers - a keyboard, 2 guitars and pads. Our worry is how the system will sound for karaoke in smaller venues like in a 30 by 20 space, whether the system will sound awkward in ultra-restrained volumes.

The guitar centre sells the same equipment, costs a couple hundred more. I am planning to visit there to check out the Yamaha amp/speakers. I have a couple SM58 mics and my friends have some PG58s, so may be sufficient right now.

I hope to also check out at the GC the Bose L1 model 1 with single base module, and see if that will work for us. Along with tone match it will cost $500 more than the Yamaha package, but might be lighter to carry around. But given that Tonematch has only 4 input channels that might be an issue to run a small band, unless perhaps we 'multiplex' it with another mixer, I dont know how that will work !


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