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Would you say that there is a particular age group that is most "guilty" of this type of self-centered behavior?

Oh, do you really want my take on this? It is the twenty-oners in my world....very demanding, very entitled. Sorry, sit down...oh, and your mom called - she said you used your last diaper last night and you need to stop on the way home and pick up a new box.

I'm with Karen. It's the young 20-somethings. The closer to 20 or 21 the more likely they are to be extremely self centered. What happened? Did the parents of this generation miss something somehow?

I'll take "Get Off My Lawn!" for $500. Geezers haver been griping about "self-centered brats" for the last 3000 years. Here's a classic from Peter the Hermit in the Dark Ages:

"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."

I submit we forget what utter cretins WE were at the same age. The kids are alright, just swat 'em down without malice when they need it. The sooner they learn that "Life's a B***H and then you die." The happier they'll be in the long run.

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I see it with all ages. The twenty somethings I get are usually pretty well behaved. I'm lucky in that regard.

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Hey Moon: I'm making a generalization here and we know that all generalizations are false, but since I've been working in the public/service industry for more years than I can recall, I have seen the tide roll toward rudeness and entitlement. Sure, in the '60s we had a chip on our shoulders and wouldn't think anything of being rude and pushy during a demonstration, but the fact is, none of us would ever have considered treating our parents or the friends of our parents, or even complete strangers, in a one-on-one situation with anything but the best of courtesies. That isn't the case any longer.

In fact, the kids that attend my show (these are 4 year olds up to 20 year olds) are much more courteous and respectful than the new drinkers...who seem to think that everyplace they go is their own and that we should all stop what we're doing to do their bidding.

Certainly not ALL are that way, but certain situations stand out in my mind, generally involving groups of those early 20s kids who have created a less than great atmosphere by their presence and their actions...and easily spoil it for everyone else. I have not experienced that sort of behavior or results with any other age group. Just speaking from experience here, and lots of it.

With the youth and patience, I can't recall where I heard this, but it makes alot of sense to me. They're rude and can't wait for anything because of technology. Need to talk to someone right now? Cell phone. Looking for and answer on something? PC, Blackberry, ect... No going to the library, or find your dictionary. Sit right there and use your phone. Answers right now!! They don't have to wait for the results and it shows when they're out in public. And all this texting? They haven't now developed communication people skills they need for an adult setting such as most karaoke venues.

Anyway, I agree with it

Every generation thinks the next is full of disrespectful, uneducated, poorly dressed & generally rude kids.

It's been this way since time began. Now you are doing it too.

No argument there. I see it in ALL age groups though



Drunken is as drunken does. Is that related to age or inebriation?



In 37 years as a performer, I've experienced it with all age groups, in audiences of 5 to 5000. In my experiences as karaoke host, the karaoke crowds are usually far mellower than the band crowds. I haven't seen anyone killed at a karaoke bar . . . yet.

Anyways, we see what we want to see, don't we?

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I've experienced it with all age groups as well, however, it's much more prevalent with the younger set.
I also agree that the age of instant gratification has a large part to play in it.
I also think that due to parents wanting to give everything to their kids (and actually doing so), causes the kids to have a much inflated sense of entitlement.
Just look at all the kids around you and even the 20-somethings when they were kids. How many toys did they have growing up? How many did you have?
My hubby and I just had this very discussion. When we were kids, we had very few toys, and what we had was well built and we looked after it. In this age of instant gratification and consumerism, the kids now have every toy under the sun and expect to have ALL the same toys as their friends. They aren't built to last and the kids treat them as such. The attitude is "I'll just get another' when it breaks!
This attitude spills over into the rest of their life and even in they way they treat others.
Hence, the way the younger set is regarding karaoke and how they treat us as hosts when we tell them "no".
This brings back memories of the "beatbox guy" who just couldn't understand the concept of "no", for those that remember that thread from a waaaayyyy back. He was the epitome of what we're discussing here.

Some people like to believe that every generation is no different than past generations. If that's what you believe, so be it.

As for me, I see significant differences in the youths of today as compared to my generation. And today's youths are the way they are because their parents, their teachers, their school, their government and their media have made them that way!

Kind of chuckling about this - I'm pretty sure it isn't regional, this attitude. What comes to mind is driving in front of our local high school - very large school. The main access from one end of town to the other runs past the school. At any given time of day you have to really watch when driving by because out of the blue these kids stroll out into the crosswalk without even a slight hesitation to see if there may be a car coming! As if some sort of sidewalk angel will make sure the cars don't hit them. Seriously! They don't even slow down ... they can be walking on the sidewalk, deep in conversation or texting, and walk RIGHT OUT onto the road. I've never seen anything like it. Have to wonder if they think the principal will be there to protect them forever. Strangest thing.

And yet, it they get hit, it's 100% the drivers fault.

If the driver is going too fast in a school zone while it is in force, for sure. If they are in a crosswalk (marked or unmarked at a corner), for sure. Otherwise it isn't so sure. Especially in the West, where both enforcement of jaywalking and failing to yield to pedestrians is ticketed far more often than back east.

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The kids wandering aimlessly into the streets is common here too. I want to know, just WHAT did their parents teach them about that!
I would have to make a guess at NOTHING!
These people are possible Darwin award recipients...

So, if "kids" haven't even been taught by the time they are in high school to look both ways before crossing the street what have they been taught

Ooooh Ooooh Ooooh. I know; I know. HOW TO PUT A CONDOM ON A CUCUMBER!

Hell, haven't you heard? They don't even teach that anymore! Talking to a recent HS graduate, they learned VERY LITTLE in sex ed. STDs where not even discussed!

Well, if they're not learning anything in sex ed they must not be learning anything?

This is a new VENT. Was at karaoke last night and the rotation was of an average length. The KJ normally sings in every rotation which seems to be okay with the regular crowd there but last night I thought he went a little overboard when he chose to sing a song that was eight and a half minutes long. When it's getting close to the end of the show, do you think it's right for the KJ to take up what amounts to be the time for 3 people to sing one song each?

As I stated to another post earlier in this thread, that debate has been had many times on this board, and I prefer that this thread not turn into that. Please post a new thread of your own if you wish to continue in that vein. Thanks.