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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 10:25 am wrote:
Wow, $56 if they can repair it. (assuming somethings wrong with it?) That's cheap...... thanks for the link Lon!

Why do you think there is something wrong with it? They are pretty hard to damage.

For $5.00 plus shipping (I usually order two at a time) you can make it look almost new:

http://www.audiopile.net/products/Micro ... ball.shtml

My guess is that the mic is just fine.

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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 8:25 am wrote:
Wow, $56 if they can repair it. (assuming somethings wrong with it?) That's cheap...... thanks for the link Lon!

That's not a repair, they replace with a brand new!!!

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Lonman @ Thu May 13, 2010 11:45 am wrote:
BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 8:25 am wrote:
Wow, $56 if they can repair it. (assuming somethings wrong with it?) That's cheap...... thanks for the link Lon!

That's not a repair, they replace with a brand new!!!


Hey Lonnie,,,not to hijack the thread here, but it is related.. Does this also apply to wireless as well? and the transmitter part too? Just asking


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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 8:25 am wrote:
Wow, $56 if they can repair it. (assuming somethings wrong with it?) That's cheap...... thanks for the link Lon!

That's not a repair, they replace with a brand new!!!


Hey Lonnie,,,not to hijack the thread here, but it is related.. Does this also apply to wireless as well? and the transmitter part too? Just asking

Not that price, but it is still much cheaper than buying a new set through the store. The price sheet is in that link above, look up your model. They are not doing anything with any mics in the 700 range FYI.

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Oops, I doubled up... go to the next page, Lol

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Why do you think there is something wrong with it? They are pretty hard to damage.


Well, the screen does have a tiny dent in one spot, not a big one, I'm pretty careful with my mics. It just doesn't seem to have the overall tone it used to. In the old days, I could tell if someone swapped out my mic for a different one, my 58 seemed to put out such a better sound. Now that I'm comparing, it just seems it doesn't have the clarity and volume it did before. (practices, I'm using my cheap Sampson mics... I can literally try them back to back and have to turn volume and hi e/q up to get the SM58 to sound as clear/loud) And I'm not someone who backs off the mic, I pretty much eat it when I'm singing.

So I don't know. Maybe I just need to replace the top? I'm not a techie person, I don't have a clue. I do know when something sounds good/better/best though. (to my ears)

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Dang me, but I almost hate to lose this one just because of the sentimental ties to it. (odd, yeah, but we women form attachments like that) Maybe I'll just buy a new one after all, and put this one in a shelf somewhere.

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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 2:57 pm wrote:
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Why do you think there is something wrong with it? They are pretty hard to damage.


Well, the screen does have a tiny dent in one spot, not a big one, I'm pretty careful with my mics. It just doesn't seem to have the overall tone it used to. In the old days, I could tell if someone swapped out my mic for a different one, my 58 seemed to put out such a better sound. Now that I'm comparing, it just seems it doesn't have the clarity and volume it did before. (practices, I'm using my cheap Sampson mics... I can literally try them back to back and have to turn volume and hi e/q up to get the SM58 to sound as clear/loud) And I'm not someone who backs off the mic, I pretty much eat it when I'm singing.

So I don't know. Maybe I just need to replace the top? I'm not a techie person, I don't have a clue. I do know when something sounds good/better/best though. (to my ears)

Have you ever cleaned the screen out, including the foam pop screen inside the actual metal mesh>? They do tend to collect the mouth spray over time, could be blocking out higher frequencies.

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Don't knock Samson mics they're good. My favorite wired mic is a Samson C7-it's excellent. I like my SM58 too, but the C7 brightens the mid range nicely and it has a supercardiod pattern-less feedback at high volume. It's a pretty sensitive mic and has less of a proximity effect too. I try to use my Shure Beta58 wireless as much as possible, but I reach for the Samson C7 when I want to use a wired mic these days.

When I do my shows I usually have a wireless and a wired mic. I switch back and forth between them during the show just for variety. You can find the wired C7 on ebay for around $75 or so, maybe less. They go for around $100 new at dealers. If you shop around maybe a bit less.

There is no more durable, decent sounding mic than the SM58. You really can't go wrong for karaoke with the SM58. I like the C7 better for around the same price, but people are so different and there is so much variation in what different folks like.


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Yeah, I have over the years cleaned it. No promises as to "how often" because it's normally only myself on this mic. (guests get the "Sampsons") :wink:

Thinking back now though... how did I forget this? :roll: There was a time, about 2-3 years or so ago, that some idjit knocked the whole mic stand over on stage when it was unoccupied and it fell. (nope, wasn't me that did it)... Anyhow, it disconnected the mic, and after picking it up, the bottom part where you plug in, had somehow got pushed up inside the casing a bit- I couldn't plug it back in. Dang, my husband did something I recall and I don't know what it was. He's not an electronics person by any means, but he'd know more about stuff like that than I do. So, I dunno, maybe something went wrong there? I just recall it was working again one day and he mumbled "yeah, I fixed it a while back". Wonder if something loosened up in there or something?

I better just fill out that form and mail it in, huh? :?

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stogie @ Thu 13 May, 2010 2:57 pm wrote:
Don't knock Samson mics they're good.


Not at all, read up, I use mine weekly, it's my main mic right now.

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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 4:00 pm wrote:
Yeah, I have over the years cleaned it. No promises as to "how often" because it's normally only myself on this mic. (guests get the "Sampsons") :wink:

Thinking back now though... how did I forget this? :roll: There was a time, about 2-3 years or so ago, that some idjit knocked the whole mic stand over on stage when it was unoccupied and it fell. (nope, wasn't me that did it)... Anyhow, it disconnected the mic, and after picking it up, the bottom part where you plug in, had somehow got pushed up inside the casing a bit- I couldn't plug it back in. Dang, my husband did something I recall and I don't know what it was. He's not an electronics person by any means, but he'd know more about stuff like that than I do. So, I dunno, maybe something went wrong there? I just recall it was working again one day and he mumbled "yeah, I fixed it a while back". Wonder if something loosened up in there or something?

I better just fill out that form and mail it in, huh? :?

Well if any connections inside weren't tweaked, it most likely wouldn't have changed tone on you, the only way that would happen is if something was blocking the wind screen or the diaphragm itself was damaged which is ALMOST impossible - but never discount anything. Lose the sentimental attachment & just return the thing & get a new one!!! :D

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My newest new years resolution: Break the tie with the old mic and get it replaced;)

My husband corrected me.. it wasn't pushed up inside the mic, the connection was pulled outward (am I making sense?)... someone, stepped on the cord, and it yanked downwards on it and knocked it over. So, he did something or other to get it back inside the.. casing?... so that we could plug it in. Don't know if there's any new soldering inside it or not, which would maybe void them out replacing it. (?) Time will tell. I'm going to fill out the form and send it in.. like I said, I'm not really using it right now anyhow. But, just in case, I think I may do a good cleaning of it first, to see if that makes any change. Still getting a new mic asap though... or a couple. (happy birthday to me) :wink:

TY for your help and advice.



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BlueStainedShoes @ Thu May 13, 2010 4:57 pm wrote:
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Well, the screen does have a tiny dent in one spot, not a big one, I'm pretty careful with my mics. It just doesn't seem to have the overall tone it used to. In the old days, I could tell if someone swapped out my mic for a different one, my 58 seemed to put out such a better sound. Now that I'm comparing, it just seems it doesn't have the clarity and volume it did before. (practices, I'm using my cheap Sampson mics... I can literally try them back to back and have to turn volume and hi e/q up to get the SM58 to sound as clear/loud) And I'm not someone who backs off the mic, I pretty much eat it when I'm singing.

Now the 58 is not nearly as "hot" as some mics, so it would not be unusual (to my mind) to have to up the gain a bit compared to another mic. And all mics equalize a bit differently.

It's just that mics like Lonnie's have worked under tough conditions for a decade and more without trouble, and you rarely hear of a 58 failing.

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My newest new years resolution: Break the tie with the old mic and get it replaced;)

My husband corrected me.. it wasn't pushed up inside the mic, the connection was pulled outward (am I making sense?)... someone, stepped on the cord, and it yanked downwards on it and knocked it over. So, he did something or other to get it back inside the.. casing?... so that we could plug it in. Don't know if there's any new soldering inside it or not, which would maybe void them out replacing it. (?) Time will tell. I'm going to fill out the form and send it in.. like I said, I'm not really using it right now anyhow. But, just in case, I think I may do a good cleaning of it first, to see if that makes any change. Still getting a new mic asap though... or a couple. (happy birthday to me) :wink:

TY for your help and advice.



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That just sounds like the set screw got loose over time & when it was yanked, the XLR connector pulled out a bit. If it continued to work after that, no wires were pulled from the connections.
I've used the same 58's since 92, I am in the process of replacing them now, not due to anything except they are worn to the point that the place where the XLR clips in to the mic is so worn, that it doesn't actually hold the cord in place anymore, I have to tape it up. Other than that I replace the screens on them every so often & they still sound as good as they did originally - they've been dropped, swung, flung & just about everything else in between and beyond - one actually was being swung & flew off the cord across the room years ago - which is pretty much when I stopped allowing the Roger Daltry effect of mic swinging - but even after that, still worked fine.

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Well, I gave it a good cleaning, and I used it yesterday at practice. I do have to turn the hi's up a bit on it compared to the other mics I have, but you know... I'm not so sure now that I'm ready to give up my SM58. And I'm wondering if anything is really even wrong with it. Another mic sounding "brighter" in comparison, doesn't necessarily mean it's "better" I guess.

One thing I do know now: My husband got to playing with different cords. Two of my cords have a more muted sound... you can try them back to back and there's a noticeable difference. (a few of them have been repaired a few times over the years) So he put the others aside and set me up with one of the better sounding cords. Wonder if that was part of what I heard before? Who knew cords could change the overall sound? (not me) Just a bad cord, not my mic? Maybe I'm being too female. (aka, picky) Anyhow, he ordered me some new cords, nice quality ones, and the Blue mic is being ordered tonight. And I may still send in the Shure. But, after all the blah blah about it, I'm betting I still use the Shure the mostest.

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Dang, and then I find out that Sennheiser has these skins:

http://www.music123.com/Sennheiser-Mic- ... 2.Music123

I haven't seen those for other mics. :? But I want one.

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BlueStainedShoes @ Mon May 17, 2010 11:27 am wrote:
Who knew cords could change the overall sound? (not me) Just a bad cord, not my mic? Maybe I'm being too female. (aka, picky) Anyhow, he ordered me some new cords, nice quality ones, and the Blue mic is being ordered tonight. And I may still send in the Shure. But, after all the blah blah about it, I'm betting I still use the Shure the mostest.


Cords could make a day & night difference :wink: I got mine working on mogami and I'm not going back to anything else, I can clearly hear the difference :roll: BTW, what you just heard is real, you were not dreaming, just try a mogami any where in the chain and you'll hear the difference, it's cheaper to replace a cable than a piece of hardware :wink:


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Sounds like you need to take the $1,000,000.00 cable challange. No one yet has been able to prove that $7200.00 speaker cables sound any different than $50.00 speaker cables.

http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/634/on ... -challenge

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You're assuming the cables in question haven't been damaged at some point. I've had cables cause issues, most of them cold solder joint issues, and upon replacement the sound is noticeably better. Never had a perfectly good working cable sound better than any other cable though <shrug>.


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I'm just going to replace them when they first get a crackle somewhere in the cable. (i hate that "now you hear me, now you don't" when you move a cord)

No more soldering and applying electrical tape to worn out cords. I have 6 on the way, so I'll be good with cords for a while. I only run 3 at a time.

$7200? Surely you're joking? :shock: Can't imagine having a cable worth more than my guitar, fiddle, mics, speakers, and mixer combined, Lol. If I did, it dam.n sure better make me sound golden;)

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