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8125 song's NOT on Gem:

SC8125 - 02 - Eagles - One Of These Nights
SC8125 - 03 - Eagles - The Long Run
SC8125 - 05 - Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
SC8125 - 07 - Eagles - Tequila Sunrise
SC8125 - 08 - Eagles - Heartache Tonight
SC8125 - 10 - Eagles - New Kid In Town
SC8125 - 11 - Eagles - Witchy Woman
SC8125 - 12 - Eagles - Best Of My Love
SC8125 - 15 - Eagles - I Can't Tell You Why

The key feature of these MP3+Gs SoundChoice is selling is METADATA!!!

Since the early 00's, the legit, legal MP3 suppliers have a static Metadata field in all MP3s they sell. This stitic Metadata field contains a unique transaction code that can be traced back to the exact transaction, including the name, address, and phone number of the purchaser. The end user agreement states that you CAN NOT share your MP3 purchase, so if you do, and THAT MP3 winds up on 5,000,000 hard drives, they can trace the static metadata and find the exact source.

Looks like SoundChoice has finally done the same thing. The MP3+G downloads have a static MetaData field with purchase information, so if you share it, and it ends up on an audited hard drive, they can trace it back to you. Even if you share the file just ONCE, then the guy you shared it with distributes it to 5,000,000 people, you are going to share in the legal blame.

I like it!

This system has worked for the most part in the MP3 community, it only makes sense to have the same system in the MP3+G community. Finally some actual responsibility and accountability!

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C Mc
KJ, FL

Notice that discs 10141-10180 are not listed on the set. I wonder what would be on those.

- Jonn

There are simple ways around that. For example you could burn the MP3+G to a CD+G, then re-rip back. Presto! No metadata.

What they should do is imbed the buyers name in the song graphics. If everytime the SC logo came up, it had the buyers business name or unique customer number under it, THAT would be a serious deterrent to sharing. Probably not technically feasible though.

Eddie Money - Take Me Home Tonight

not available on any other current disc (or even as A Karaoke Channel download)

I'm still going through and editing artist / song names from their list to compare with mine. Problem is I really don't have enough cash to drop on these sets right now.

- Jonn

Chartbuster does this on all the custom discs they sell so it's feasable SC could do the same thing.

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I have alway been of the opinion that these sets will be most useful to people who have been doing karaoke for less than 5 years OR to people who want to have another legal karaoke rig to use.

The rest will probably not obtain as much benefit.

For me personally, if I could afford the cost I would get it. 70% of the songs are ones I do not currently own and maybe another 10% are ones I wouldn't mind replacing with better quality tracks.

Plus there are a lot of broadway songs in the cheaper sets. I love singing showtunes because it forces me to become a better singer.


-James

edit for a comment on the chartbuster thing. I have two of their discs, I wished they had used a unique id number instead.

What if I want to re-sell the discs? who's going to buy something that has my name on it?

More than likely - or to ones that want to become legal kj's and replace their illegal hard drive.
When I am ready to get music for my mobile system, this is definitely the way i'm going. Don't have much use for the sets in my main rig as I have probably 90-95% of those songs already on SC discs.

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Now that is interesting. Good catch.

An "Emerald 3" perhaps?

I really want that song, but very hard to justify buying the whole diamond set.

You can get the Stingray Digital versions from amazon, both performance and demonstration versions (like I did.) Other threads will talk about creating lyrics

- Jonn

SC states that 90% of KJs are pirates...

Do you really think that real pirates would pay $4500 and sign an agreement that allows audits?


That is not how the music industry weened everyone off of Napster. And yes there is still piracy in the music industry, but download revenues have surpassed pre-napster CD sales.

Right now karaoke pirates need to pay $15-$20 for a cdg that has two or three songs they want. If there was ever a hassle free/commercial use download site that charged $1 a song, Maybe they could tap that huge PIRATE KJ market.

Couldn't answer that, i'm not one. But if they were getting sued and had to pay $6500, this could be an alternative to get the songs at a somewhat cheaper cost.
If audits become the way a computer kj can be legal to use them, then i'm all for it.

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You are part of the 10% that was already "legal"... I am not business major, I imagined that the 90% would be the target. Again not a business major, no way in hell pirates would be lined up to agree to audits and pay this price.

All this talk about once SC starts making money they will produce more tracks... Sorry, I dont see it.

Well then hopefully they get named in a lawsuit & pay the bigger fine or get out entirely. But if a pirate had the choice to get the same collection for $4500 and be legal, or get sued and be forced to pay the $6500 fine to be legal they are now collecting, business major or not, the pirate would be more stupid than originally thought. But you are right, they probably won't so again, hopefully they get sued.

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Unfortunately, those are not the only choices available.

If a pirate gets 100,000 songs for $500 on craigslist, he can drop all tracks from those companies that are a threat to him... AND STILL have more tracks than most legal KJs


Sad but true.



I kinda wished that SC would release two series... PRO(gem) and a budget line which might convert some of those from the darkside. Maybe a lower bit rate, choppier graphics, built in ads??? What ever it takes, to even the playing field. If they could get pirates 4,000 legal songs(at lower quality) under a grand. I can see pirates jumping ship.

But those 100K drives are so loaded with dups it cuts it down quite a bit, plus many are loaded with several thousand foreign language songs that probably most kj's in the US wouldn't need, and then all the crappy companies to boot that the better singers tend to avoid. I have a meager 12K non-duplicated song selection and am willing to put it up against any pirate drive & am willing to bet i'd have more songs that singers actually want to sing, not not all, but even the pirates will never have them all either, many of them never update current music or get any other disc again as they think it's all they need. I have seen some of the books on these drives that claim to have everything (the ones that actually do books that is) and it's just funny seeing 10-15 versions of Friends In Low Places & 20 versions of The Rose, etc.
But I am a believer that SC will release all their songs as individual downloads for working kj's after this set is out a while. I really miss their custom discs.

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That, depending on possible strings attached... I would say is awesome.

I've seen marketing for custom discs where your name (or whoever it is custom made for) is printed on the logo screen. Can't remember, but I think it's Chartbuster. Could be one of the distributors though.

This scenario sounds strikingly familiar with Canada's gun registry law. Some moron decided that the way to flush out the criminals with illegal guns was to have everyone register their guns in a national registry and pay for the privilege to boot.
Well, I'm sure you can guess the outcome of that! The criminals with their illegal guns were lined up down the street waiting to register the legal guns and have their illegal ones confiscated. It worked so well, that one of my friends and her boyfriend were murdered in cold blood right in their own home last month (home invasion) with one of those illegal guns. <insert sarcasm>
In the end, all that gun registry law did was penalize the law abiding citizens, much like the way SC is currently penalizing the legal hosts by "forcing" them into agreeing to random audits at any time.
Sure, I can see the pirates lined up to buy those sets to turn legal.... (not a chance in h-e-double hockey sticks!)