KARAOKE SCENE MAGAZINE ONLINE! - Do You Normalize? Public Forums Karaoke Discussions Karaoke Scene's Karaoke Forums Home | Contact Us | Site Map  

Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene

   
  * Login
  * Register

  * FAQ
  * Search

Custom Search

Social Networks


wordpress-hosting

Offsite Links


It is currently Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:33 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:40 am 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 28, 2007 10:11 am
Posts: 1832
Location: TX
Been Liked: 59 times
I have been re-ripping all my discs to 320 as some were at 128 and others at 192 and got to thinking about using a program called MP3 Gain to make the volumes on all the MP3's the same volume, I was thinking of using 90db which is just about as loud as you want to get before you get track clipping.

Does anyone else do this?
Is it a good Idea, I thought so because then I wouldn't be jumping at the knobs trying to turn up or down the volume depending on the song.

Let me here your thoughts.

_________________
I like everyone when I first meet them. If you don't like me that's not my problem it's YOURS!
A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:46 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:40 am
Posts: 1094
Songs: 1
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Been Liked: 53 times
While you're putting all the work of re-ripping your discs into it anyway, why not? It's just one more added step and saves you a lot of headache later on. So go for it! :D


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:00 am 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm
Posts: 1625
Location: Montreal, Canada
Been Liked: 34 times
I would too and 0db is the saturation point :wink:


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:06 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:53 am
Posts: 1462
Location: West Bend, WI
Been Liked: 3 times
I haven't gone through most of my older stuff, but as I add new tracks I have been normalizing them, yes. The unfortunate thing is the levels still vary greatly because some tracks are heavily compressed when they're recorded and the result is that the transient peaks are not that much higher in level than the rest of the program material. Conversely, there are plenty of tracks that have a much wider crest factor (ratio of average levels to peak levels) where most of the track is quiet but then the peaks are pretty severe. Normalizing results in these tracks sounding quieter.

So since I have the luxury of compression on every channel on my console, I do run stereo compression on the Karaoke Tracks channel. It helps some but still isn't' perfect and has to be tweaked or bypassed for some songs (definitely not a set it and forget it item).

Honestly I'm thinking if I really wanted to get this under control, I'd need to compress some of the songs with the wider crest factor (so first I'd have to locate them) and then normalize after that.

_________________
DJ Tony
Let It Rip Karaoke


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:25 am 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:03 pm
Posts: 1921
Images: 1
Location: N. Central Iowa
Been Liked: 53 times
Lone Wolf @ Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:40 am wrote:
Does anyone else do this?
Is it a good Idea, I thought so because then I wouldn't be jumping at the knobs trying to turn up or down the volume depending on the song.

Let me here your thoughts.



Wish I would have normalized from the beginning, but didn't. If I ever have to re-rip my CDGs, I definatly will.


BTW...Rip at 240+, for a lil better sound, hard drives are cheap if you need more space.


Top
 Profile Personal album Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:18 pm 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:13 pm
Posts: 1625
Location: Montreal, Canada
Been Liked: 34 times
twansenne @ Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:25 pm wrote:
Lone Wolf @ Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:40 am wrote:
Does anyone else do this?
Is it a good Idea, I thought so because then I wouldn't be jumping at the knobs trying to turn up or down the volume depending on the song.

Let me here your thoughts.



Wish I would have normalized from the beginning, but didn't. If I ever have to re-rip my CDGs, I definatly will.


BTW...Rip at 240+, for a lil better sound, hard drives are cheap if you need more space.


And with a Lame encoder :wink:


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:29 pm 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:30 pm
Posts: 1806
Images: 0
Been Liked: 631 times
I have run all my tracks through Mp3Gain. I used the default setting of 89db.

It certainly does help but as letitrip stated it is by no means a set and forget thing.

_________________
Music speaks to the heart in ways words cannot express.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
 Post subject: Re: Do You Normalize?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:30 am 
Offline
Super Plus Poster
Super Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 28, 2007 10:11 am
Posts: 1832
Location: TX
Been Liked: 59 times
twansenne @ Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:25 pm wrote:
Lone Wolf @ Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:40 am wrote:
Does anyone else do this?
Is it a good Idea, I thought so because then I wouldn't be jumping at the knobs trying to turn up or down the volume depending on the song.

Let me here your thoughts.



Wish I would have normalized from the beginning, but didn't. If I ever have to re-rip my CDGs, I definatly will.


BTW...Rip at 240+, for a lil better sound, hard drives are cheap if you need more space.


Why at 240 I'm re-ripping at 320

You don't have to re-rip them if they are unzipped you just need to normalize them the only reason I'm re-ripping them as they were at 128-192 to begin with and when I get a manu's set done I normalize them.

Thanks for all the input Y'all

_________________
I like everyone when I first meet them. If you don't like me that's not my problem it's YOURS!
A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 627 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Privacy Policy | Anti-Spam Policy | Acceptable Use Policy Copyright © Karaoke Scene Magazine
design & hosting by Cross Web Tech