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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:31 pm 
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Ok I have a behringer 1222FX mixer that has served me quite faithfully, but lately when I plug in to the main outputs via XLR cables, there is an INCESSANT steady hum that is quite loud. Plus every now and then if the cables get bumped, the music will cut out.


I'm thinking the conectors might be lose, which means new mixer.

I don't have a lot of money, especially since I'm not working at the moment, but I would like to have something available if I find the work.


Eventually I'd like to get something that would make digital recording easier. *I have had several singers ask me to record them, but for the life of me I can't figure out how I got the last one to work and sound so great*

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The first thing I would do is try some new cables. Cables do go bad, especially cheap ones.


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Well i'd try new cables first, but that is exactly how my channels died on every Behringer i've owned.

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Lonman @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:47 am wrote:
Well i'd try new cables first, but that is exactly how my channels died on every Behringer i've owned.


Same here :roll: And when I opened up the mixer just to see what was on the inside I understood why it was slowly dying :wink:


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Guess I should have mentioned, I've already tried several sets of cables including a set that work perfectly fine with a friend's equipment.. :)


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Also I would rather save up if I have to and get something halfway decent *i probably couldn't afford top of the line but I'd be willing to settle for mid-range*


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jclaydon @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:31 am wrote:
Ok I have a behringer 1222FX mixer that has served me quite faithfully, but lately when I plug in to the main outputs via XLR cables, there is an INCESSANT steady hum that is quite loud. Plus every now and then if the cables get bumped, the music will cut out.


I'm thinking the conectors might be lose, which means new mixer.

I don't have a lot of money, especially since I'm not working at the moment, but I would like to have something available if I find the work.


Eventually I'd like to get something that would make digital recording easier. *I have had several singers ask me to record them, but for the life of me I can't figure out how I got the last one to work and sound so great*


-James


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If you were happy with your Behringer and it served you well as you say.

The latest model of that same mixer now has USB connections and built in compression on the channels. That along with on board EFX and graphic equalizer make it a great mixer for the $219.00 http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... sku=485371

The Mackie Profx12 could be another choice for you.

What is your TOP budget as there are always better and more expensive alternatives


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If you're happy with what the Behringer gives you from a feature standpoint, I would then recommend the Yamaha MG124CX. It gives you all the same functionality as the Behringer you have now plus a simple compressor on each of the first 4 mic channels. You can get one brand new for under $300 so that should help your budget concerns. The MG series is a good lineup with decent quality (will sound better and be more durable than your Behringer) and a nice feature set. As bang for the buck goes in the compact mixer market, I'm not sure you can do much better.

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letitrip @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:15 am wrote:
If you're happy with what the Behringer gives you from a feature standpoint, I would then recommend the Yamaha MG124CX. It gives you all the same functionality as the Behringer you have now plus a simple compressor on each of the first 4 mic channels. You can get one brand new for under $300 so that should help your budget concerns. The MG series is a good lineup with decent quality (will sound better and be more durable than your Behringer) and a nice feature set. As bang for the buck goes in the compact mixer market, I'm not sure you can do much better.


Thank vou for that, I will go look at the specs. If I`m going to have to spend money anyway I would like to get something that is more durable and will likely last longer.

Eventually I would like to get something that has subgroups *easier to setup for recording multiple singers* but I`ll worry about that when I am actually working.


thanks again.

Just for the record for those that asked, the most I would be willing to spend is $600. I`d definately have to save up for that, but if I found something I REALLY wanted, and came highly recommended, I would be willing to wait and save up for it.. :)


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Well, knowing your budget, you'll be getting tons of suggestions so here's mine :wink:

Allen & Heath Zed 12Fx:

http://www.allen-heath.com/zed/zed-12FX.asp

And this ebay seller has it at a good price :roll:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allen-Heath-ZED-12F ... 0375543352

It's built solid, has a USB connection, some FX and sounds better than anything in that price range in my opinion 8)


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Here's a link to someone selling the Yamaha board with a case included:

http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.p ... 265/24636/

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Too bad you don't live near me. I have a used Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro for sale. I upgraded to A&H so I am trying to sell it on local CL but no one is biting. What do you guys think it's worth now days? I have rack ears for it as well.

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eben @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:50 pm wrote:
Too bad you don't live near me. I have a used Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro for sale. I upgraded to A&H so I am trying to sell it on local CL but no one is biting. What do you guys think it's worth now days? I have rack ears for it as well.


$200-250 in most markets.

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eben @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:50 pm wrote:
Too bad you don't live near me. I have a used Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro for sale. I upgraded to A&H so I am trying to sell it on local CL but no one is biting. What do you guys think it's worth now days? I have rack ears for it as well.


It's funny to see you have made the same changes I did, I got the Zed 14 to replace the Mackie 1402-VLZ and the improvement is major but I ended up keeping the Mackie :roll: I tried selling it at Tony's suggested price but everyone kept asking if it was the China version and once I said yes, no one wanted it :| I'm keeping it and still enjoying it's qualities, doesn't sound like the Zed but it's still a good board :D


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I have it on CL for $250 and I am not even getting a response for it. This is an older model and says it's made in the USA. Maybe I should add that to the ad.

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eben @ Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:38 pm wrote:
I have it on CL for $250 and I am not even getting a response for it. This is an older model and says it's made in the USA. Maybe I should add that to the ad.


I would, it might help a bit. However the issue still may be the fact that it's just not a very well featured board for either live or recording purposes. They seemed to have tried to bridge a gap between the two and ended up with a console that isn't particularly well suited for either.

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eben @ Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:38 pm wrote:
I have it on CL for $250 and I am not even getting a response for it. This is an older model and says it's made in the USA. Maybe I should add that to the ad.


Yes, I really suggest you do say "Original" built in the USA, it should sell much faster!

This is what people are afraid of from the "built in China" version:

http://forums.mackie.com/scripts/forum/ ... 4;t=001985

I know it's just a question of time before I encounter the same problem with mine and it's the reason I was trying to sell it :roll:


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letitrip @ Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am wrote:
If you're happy with what the Behringer gives you from a feature standpoint, I would then recommend the Yamaha MG124CX. It gives you all the same functionality as the Behringer you have now plus a simple compressor on each of the first 4 mic channels. You can get one brand new for under $300 so that should help your budget concerns. The MG series is a good lineup with decent quality (will sound better and be more durable than your Behringer) and a nice feature set. As bang for the buck goes in the compact mixer market, I'm not sure you can do much better.


This is what I use, and I have the same model as a back up. I found it easy to use as a newbie and I would recommend it except for one feature. It's not rackable. Keep that in mind.

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