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Karen K
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:10 pm |
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diafel @ Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:17 pm wrote: Babs @ Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:17 pm wrote: I've used several of the things posted already. The one finger method, it bothers the other singers, I can't hear them well enough over the music when I'm on stage, It's really hard to work and talk at the same time and I feel like I am neglecting the other singers. Of course letting them know it isn't that I don't want to talk to them, but I'm working right now.
The one finger method doesn't work, unfortunately. I used to use it, but now, it's like it's not even there! I'm just at a loss here.
Can you maybe suggest to one of his/your friends in the crowd that they distract him? Maybe work out a high sign, you can say that someone is trying to get his attention, blah blah. I'd try that.
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:05 pm |
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BruceFan4Life @ Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 pm wrote: mrscott @ September 12th 2010, 11:28 pm wrote: Well, it occurs to me that the most appropriate way is to tell the HONEST truth to him. But, I would start it by saying these 5 words " I love you dearly, but..". I know I would rather be told the truth than to find out later that I have been either misled or plainly lied to. If you value him, be honest with him. If he values himself (which I am sure he does), then he would like the truth more than just simply trying to be coy or just trying to be polite. This doesn't mean you have to be brutal, you could use kind words and still express EXACTLY how you feel and what it is doing to the flow of your show.
Honesty is ALWAYS the answer, if you value someone, then you WILL be honest with them. Honesty is ALWAYS the answer????? I was honest with JUSTADAD BUT YOU DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE ANSWER THEN. I guess I should have prefaced my posts with those 5 magical words of yours.... "I LOVE YOU DEARLY BUT". GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
Do you ever stop trying to start an argument
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:07 pm |
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you saw my set up ..
Yeah someone talking to me can be very distracting to the singer.
I do motion to them to wait a minute and then I'll walk away and have them follow me to talk. This way I can always run away back to the mixer and use that excuse.
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jr2423
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:11 pm |
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I've always wanted to display a sign that reads, "Don't Talk To The Operator While The Vehicle Is In Motion". But for now my finger points to my wonderful wife (and customer service representative) who takes care of all the socializing, etc...
_________________ EveningStar Entertainment & Events JR & Michele LaPorte Peoria, AZ
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BruceFan4Life
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:05 pm |
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jamkaraoke @ September 13th 2010, 3:05 pm wrote: BruceFan4Life @ Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 pm wrote: mrscott @ September 12th 2010, 11:28 pm wrote: Well, it occurs to me that the most appropriate way is to tell the HONEST truth to him. But, I would start it by saying these 5 words " I love you dearly, but..". I know I would rather be told the truth than to find out later that I have been either misled or plainly lied to. If you value him, be honest with him. If he values himself (which I am sure he does), then he would like the truth more than just simply trying to be coy or just trying to be polite. This doesn't mean you have to be brutal, you could use kind words and still express EXACTLY how you feel and what it is doing to the flow of your show.
Honesty is ALWAYS the answer, if you value someone, then you WILL be honest with them. Honesty is ALWAYS the answer????? I was honest with JUSTADAD BUT YOU DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THE ANSWER THEN. I guess I should have prefaced my posts with those 5 magical words of yours.... "I LOVE YOU DEARLY BUT". GIVE ME A BREAK!!! Do you ever stop trying to start an argument
Hypocrisy Irks me..... and my response to him was a lot more polite than the response from his buddy,Justadad. It's not an argument. It's an observation....and an HONEST ONE AT THAT!
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Bazza
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:40 pm |
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jerry12x @ Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:19 am wrote: Blackburn Lancashire I believe.
I thought that's where the "Four Thousand Holes" were.
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letitrip
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:17 pm |
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I've been reading all the suggestions here and I don't get it. Why is it so hard to just tell someone that you'll be with them in a little bit but at the moment you've gotta focus on what you're doing? I'm seeing suggestions of lie to him, go behind his back and get others to distract him, all sorts of interesting approaches. But I agree, be honest and he'll understand. If he can't understand well then he's being rude and if he's hurt by that too damn bad. I mean you're there to do a job and that job at times requires focus. Anyone who would fault you for that is being completely unreasonable and I seriously doubt this gentleman would hold it against you. Quite often when I'm working I have to put a conversation "on hold" to listen to whats going on and react accordingly. People don't take offense to it. Hell when I'm mixing bands, most times I'm so focused on what's going on up on stage and with the audio coming from the PA I don't even notice when people are trying to talk to me or notice what crazy things (like women's tops coming off or people doing the worm) are going on around me. I can't imagine that this nice old man wouldn't understand or would hold it against you in anyway.
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srnitynow
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:52 pm |
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I think he's become infatuated with you, and has alot of sexual tension built up. I suggest you just go ahead and have sex with him, and then he won't be infatuated any more. All of the luster and mystery will be gone, and you'll just be the female kj. He'll see another "new" infatuation, and move on. Of course this could cause a problem with your spouse, but maybe he'll be more understanding. Just tell him that that was the only way you could get rid of this old geezer. Sorry, Diafel, but I couldn't resist.
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mrscott
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:09 pm |
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srnitynow @ Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:52 pm wrote: I think he's become infatuated with you, and has alot of sexual tension built up. I suggest you just go ahead and have sex with him, and then he won't be infatuated any more. All of the luster and mystery will be gone, and you'll just be the female kj. He'll see another "new" infatuation, and move on. Of course this could cause a problem with your spouse, but maybe he'll be more understanding. Just tell him that that was the only way you could get rid of this old geezer. Sorry, Diafel, but I couldn't resist. Rosario
That just simply makes me chuckle!!! Thanks Rosario!!!
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:14 pm |
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I'm shocked, Rosario! But you are absolutely correct, of course.
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:15 pm |
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Bazza @ Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:40 pm wrote: jerry12x @ Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:19 am wrote: Blackburn Lancashire I believe. I thought that's where the "Four Thousand Holes" were.
I've been waiting two days for someone to say that.
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mrscott
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:21 pm |
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letitrip @ Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:17 pm wrote: I've been reading all the suggestions here and I don't get it. Why is it so hard to just tell someone that you'll be with them in a little bit but at the moment you've gotta focus on what you're doing? I'm seeing suggestions of lie to him, go behind his back and get others to distract him, all sorts of interesting approaches. But I agree, be honest and he'll understand. If he can't understand well then he's being rude and if he's hurt by that too gosh darn bad. I mean you're there to do a job and that job at times requires focus. Anyone who would fault you for that is being completely unreasonable and I seriously doubt this gentleman would hold it against you. Quite often when I'm working I have to put a conversation "on hold" to listen to whats going on and react accordingly. People don't take offense to it. Hell when I'm mixing bands, most times I'm so focused on what's going on up on stage and with the audio coming from the PA I don't even notice when people are trying to talk to me or notice what crazy things (like women's tops coming off or people doing the worm) are going on around me. I can't imagine that this nice old man wouldn't understand or would hold it against you in anyway.
Isn't that what I said? Just tell him the truth! Nobody has to put any other person down for telling the truth! It's simply what needs to be done to get the job done without unnecessary interruptions. Putting a little of yourself into his shoes by telling him you appreciate him ( love you ) goes a long ways!! I am very sure he is mature enough to be able to know when what he is doing is causing a small distraction. Just simply tell him. You don't have to use rude comments or attach him personally, just tell him in simple "human" terms.
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:33 pm |
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Well Diafel Tower of Power, I have this problem whether it's karaoke or I'm trying to keep a wedding reception on course......I partially ignore them, not answering verbally, but only with a smile, and a nod once in a while. I look at lists, read outs, and settings, and I act even busier than I really am. I even lightly and under the breath, say a few curse words(or shoots and shucks), that show that I'm having problems, and completely distract myself from them......sometimes you must be an actress.......good luck
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jamkaraoke
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:49 am |
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Telling the truth is ALWAYS the best approach to many situations.......
The "KEY" is how you convey the truth ... The WORDS you choose ..... The way you say what you need to say. There are many ways and many words to say the same thing. Good people usually choose the nice way ...... Othere choose the crass and rude way .....
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mrscott
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:25 am |
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jamkaraoke @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:49 am wrote: Telling the truth is ALWAYS the best approach to many situations.......
The "KEY" is how you convey the truth ... The WORDS you choose ..... The way you say what you need to say. There are many ways and many words to say the same thing. Good people usually choose the nice way ...... Othere choose the crass and rude way .....
Exactly.
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ggardein
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:44 pm |
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mrscott @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:25 am wrote: jamkaraoke @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:49 am wrote: Telling the truth is ALWAYS the best approach to many situations.......
The "KEY" is how you convey the truth ... The WORDS you choose ..... The way you say what you need to say. There are many ways and many words to say the same thing. Good people usually choose the nice way ...... Othere choose the crass and rude way ..... Exactly.
You really think so?.....as in "does my butt look big in these shorts?" "does this dress make me look fat?".....I'm sticking with the white lies......
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mrscott
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:40 am |
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nobodyhome @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:44 pm wrote: mrscott @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:25 am wrote: jamkaraoke @ Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:49 am wrote: Telling the truth is ALWAYS the best approach to many situations.......
The "KEY" is how you convey the truth ... The WORDS you choose ..... The way you say what you need to say. There are many ways and many words to say the same thing. Good people usually choose the nice way ...... Othere choose the crass and rude way ..... Exactly. You really think so?.....as in "does my butt look big in these shorts?" "does this dress make me look fat?".....I'm sticking with the white lies......
In those cases with questions like that, there is NO answer that will satisfy the one asking the question. When asking questions of vanity, all they WANT to hear is answers that will boost their ego. And in doing so, you are not doing them any favors by telling them "white lies". The honest answer to a question of vanity such as "Do these pants make my butt look big ?" is,, "I choose not to answer that because there is no answer that I can give you that will satisfy the question. I (love honor or whatever you choose) you as a person/friend/spouse/whatever the case, but a that type of question is not fair to ask" Or something on those lines. White lies can do as much harm in the end as telling a full fledged bold faced lie. You don't have to hurt someone's feeling by telling the truth. However, they might not like what you say at that moment. But if they are mature enough, they will know what you are saying is positive to them.
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diafel
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:04 am |
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mrscott @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:40 am wrote: But if they are mature enough, they will know what you are saying is positive to them.
And this is what I fear, That perhaps he's NOT mature enough to handle the truth and may take it to heart and as an insult.
As an addition, he actually phone my house night before last on the pretext that he had heard there was going to be a "dance" at one of the venues I work. It happens to have the same name as the high school, so I suggested to him that that is probably where the "dance" was.
He then continued on to chit chat, but didn't have much of anything of any consequence to say. I suspect he was maybe trying to further our "friendship", but I'm not comfortable with that. For those that will say he's looking to me for a girlfriend, I will say that he's definitely not, and he also knows I'm in a committed relationship. Nor would I be interested in a man that could easily be my father. I've been very clear about my "marital status" with everyone. It's certainly no secret. His friend (he was actually his foster son many years ago) that he comes out with, however, does have a crush on me, of which I'm well aware and do my best to discourage without being rude or nasty or hurtful. I try my best to ignore it and treat him like anyone else. He (the foster son/friend) has not been forward with it and has said nothing. I just hope he gets over it soon.
I do worry that maybe the older man is perhaps trying to further the friendship for the benefit of his foster son/friend? I really don't know. It's really just speculation on my part, but I will say that I am definitely not interested. Very few people are invited further into my life and I'm very choosy about those that are.
Not that they are bad people, but given the circumstances.....
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:12 am |
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diafel @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:04 am wrote: mrscott @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:40 am wrote: But if they are mature enough, they will know what you are saying is positive to them. And this is what I fear, That perhaps he's NOT mature enough to handle the truth and may take it to heart and as an insult. As an addition, he actually phone my house night before last on the pretext that he had heard there was going to be a "dance" at one of the venues I work. It happens to have the same name as the high school, so I suggested to him that that is probably where the "dance" was. He then continued on to chit chat, but didn't have much of anything of any consequence to say. I suspect he was maybe trying to further our "friendship", but I'm not comfortable with that. For those that will say he's looking to me for a girlfriend, I will say that he's definitely not, and he also knows I'm in a committed relationship. Nor would I be interested in a man that could easily be my father. I've been very clear about my "marital status" with everyone. It's certainly no secret. His friend (he was actually his foster son many years ago) that he comes out with, however, does have a crush on me, of which I'm well aware and do my best to discourage without being rude or nasty or hurtful. I try my best to ignore it and treat him like anyone else. He (the foster son/friend) has not been forward with it and has said nothing. I just hope he gets over it soon. I do worry that maybe the older man is perhaps trying to further the friendship for the benefit of his foster son/friend? I really don't know. It's really just speculation on my part, but I will say that I am definitely not interested. Very few people are invited further into my life and I'm very choosy about those that are. Not that they are bad people, but given the circumstances.....
Then Diafel, the answer is plain. YOU do what YOU feel is right for you! Ask yourself the question, you KNOW the answer, just let you heart tell you what to do. Your heart will NEVER lead you astray. It is our minds and thinking that make decisions that might lead to poor choices. You have the power to choose using your HEART what direction you would WANT this situation to go. Simple thing really, you have the answer, just ask the question.
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