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 Post subject: Downloaded show.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:45 pm 
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I know 2 KJs.
The first one pays for and downloads new songs as they are requested on the night'
That is how he is building his collection.
No media shift.
The second KJ bought a loaded disk.
This is the UK. Sunfly and Zoom.
He does his show on a saturday.
On the sunday he buys online the new songs that were sung.
He methodically keeps up to date with it.

Now they both told me that they know many who do that.

I like the idea of the first one since I don't have a massive collection.
I think I will now go with it. Am I thinking it correctly?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:58 pm 
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damn, wish we could get away with that in the states. i would love to be able to buy a song on the fly like that. great way to build your library with only songs people actually want to sing without the dupes.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:29 pm 
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i am also in the uk.....just downloading a track is classed as media shifting..which means he needs a produb licence with the karaoke pickup option....

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Yes I am aware of the produb licence.
Only because you posted about it earlier.


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Wiggly Dave @ Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:29 pm wrote:
i am also in the uk.....just downloading a track is classed as media shifting..which means he needs a produb licence with the karaoke pickup option....


May not be media shifting, depends who you speak to at pro-dub. I've been told it isn't (however if you copy that track for a back up... then you do need a pro dub licence). I've also know of another DJ who was told because you aren't actually changing the format of a download it doesn't count as media shifting no matter how many copys you make. :roll:


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jerry12x @ Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:07 pm wrote:
Yes I am aware of the produb licence.
Only because you posted about it earlier.


Pro-dub has also assured me that they have done an active marketing campaign so all working Dj's should know about it.

Personally for me, I'd like to make sure I have a hard copy of any song, at least that way I have physical evidence that I've brought it, so at least some rights have gone to the karaoke company.


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 Post subject: Re: Downloaded show.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:12 am 
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Hmmm.
I found out about the Pro-dub on this forum
from one of you guys.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:23 pm 
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a dj i know had a pub he was working in raided by trading standards. all they were interested in him was wether he had a pro dub or not. nothing else..no e license or anything

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:06 pm 
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Sounds about right for the white collar brigade.


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I see nothing wrong with downloading songs as needed. I hope you are getting paid well. 50+ unique songs in a night and you are spending $100 to make?? Most download sites provided by manufacture are $1.99 per song.

Can someone please explain to me why one could not get away with this in the states? Who telling you you can't? Who has showed up at your show and said you can't do that?


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 Post subject: Re: Downloaded show.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:08 pm 
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lyquiddye @ Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:53 am wrote:
50+ unique songs in a night and you are spending $100 to make?? ?


Sure. But that only happens the first night.
By week 6 it maybe 10.
18 months on It is on average 2.


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Sorry.
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With Best Buy pulling music cds and DVD from their shelves and replacing with gaming software I think tells you about the shift in the music market going to digital. Nobody says you can't download karaoke music in the states and it is ilegal. Yes most digital download sites are for personal use but now the difinative answer for USA has now been spelled out at ERGMUSIC.COM. If you want to download karaoke music for commercial use in the USA it is legal! Since SONY and ERG work together I would think they would have the legalities worked out for the USA.

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 Post subject: Re: Downloaded show.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:22 pm 
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thats good news. Should make Sound Choice have a re-think going off what you guys have said

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thats good news. Should make Sound Choice have a re-think going off what you guys have said

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 Post subject: Re: Downloaded show.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:13 pm 
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Hope this could be so good he said it twice. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Downloaded show.
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jerry12x @ Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:13 am wrote:
Hope this could be so good he said it twice. :D

Doh! Double clicked it! :roll:

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