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I got my system setup and it sounds pretty good. I do have a question about effects for vocals.

I have A&H Zed mixer with built in effects. I used to use my Behringer V-Verb Pro box on my old Mackie. I was going to sell it but Lonnie made a suggestion that I keep it and use one for delay and one for reverb. What a great idea. I finally have chance to integrate the V-Verb Pro. The question is, which would be better to go with which effect? Built in for reverb or delay and vice versa?

Also, on this mixer, it has three buses with two being pre and one being post. Which one should I use for the Behringer? I assume pre because I don't want the effects on the music, just vocal. Or does the bus only effects the channels I apply to? Would love some guideline here as well.

Thanks in advance.

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As for which one to use for which effects would be listen to each effects reverb - which one sounds better, then the same with the delay. Chances are the A & H built in reverb is going to sound much better and since this will most likely be your primary effects, this is probably the one i'd use for reverb. The delay is typically going to be so minimal that you should barely be able to make it out in the mix most of the time, but you'd know if it wasn't there.
Most effects would be routed post fader. It will only effect the channels you turn the Aux up on that specific channel. Difference between pre & post is basically 'pre' is a direct signal sent to the the Aux send- not effects by any eq or the actual fader itself - this is mostly specific for monitor sends since you can still adjust an individual channel with the main fader without affecting the pre Aux send - 'pre' fader. Post fader is a wet signal sent to the Aux send, anything your channel sees signal wise including eq and fader control - post fader which means you can actually adjust the volume of that aux send with the fader as well.

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Thanks for the quick reply Lonnie. I will give it a try.

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The one thing with delay is typically I'd use the easier to control unit for the delay. I.e. the one that lets me set the delay speed I want the fastest. For many that means having a tap tempo button to be able to set the speed that way. Neither verb is going to be bad nor will it be particularly spectacular so I doubt there will be much audible difference in this case. I'd worry more about what's going to make your job easier.

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Speaking of, how do you use the tap button? Do you tap exactly with the beat? Twice the speed of the beat? Just curious... I get good results with twice the beat speed. Sometimes I use 1:1 to the beat.

Depends on the song and the effect you're going for really. If you want an obvious repeating effect (like an echo) then you'd probably go with quarter notes (tap on the beats). If you're looking to get more of a subtle effect like Nugent's Cat Scratch Fever, you're probably looking for more of an 1/8 note (2 taps per beat). In some cases you might even use the delay just as a way to "fatten up" the vocals, in these cases a 1/16 note (4 taps per beat) is appropriate. My suggestion would be, try to imagine what it would sound like in your head and then try and tap along with what you hear in your head. After a while you'll get used to what each type sounds like and you'll be able to tap out what you want more easily.

Next topic would be to talk about feedback amounts (which basically controls the number and volume of repeats), but that's a whole 'nother discussion.

Hope that helps.

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