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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:46 am 
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Eventide PitchFactor vs. Lexicon MX-400. Ease of use VS. Eventides legendary effects at a crazy "low" price. Can get the Lex for 300. can get the Eventide for 400 used.....leaning to the Lexicon but can't decide. Wouldn't it be awesome to have access to Eventide sounds at that price! hmmm. anybody had experience with both?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:38 am 
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The Evintide is a $499.99 unit new on Amazon.com so I'm not sure that $400.00 for a used one is a "Crazy" low price. I never pay any more than 40-60% retail for used item. Also, that Evintide unit is a pedal, so it wouldn't be the easiest unit to use for a karaoke application.

The Lexicon MX-400 is on Amazon.com for $299.99 new. I would opt for this unit over the Evintide just because it is a rack unit and is set up to manipulate in a live-sound setting. It would just be easier to use than the "stomp box" interface of the Evintide.

I personally think that any decent effects unit is more than enough for a typical karaoke application. Sure, you could go spend $6,000 on the best Evintide reverbs out there, but your typical karaoke singer isn't going to know the difference between that and the standard reverbs on a budget Yamaha board. I find that your typical karaoke singer that actually cares about reverb will ask you to lay it on thick, and the high-end reverbs out there are engineered to be as transparent as possible, so what's the use in having a reverb above a certain "base" quality level?

Most locally touring bands and small-scale studio audio engineers use processor units in the mid-range Alesis, TC Helicon, Lexicon, Yamaha arena. If it is good enough for them, it's good enough for karaoke!

Anyway, check out E-bay and craigslist for processors. As long as you can demo them to make sure they work, you can get a really good deal.

I just picked up a TC Helicon Voiceworks on craigslist that is very comparable to the Lexicon MX-400 for $75.00. THAT is crazy low!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:34 am 
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I mean crazy low price to have access to eventide harmonizing abilities, not the price of the item itself. Look up the price of most eventide harmonizers and see what I'm talking about. I could be wrong but isn't this the first time eventide has offered a harmonizer in any form for this low of a price? This item has many of those abilities at a fraction of the cost, albeit giving up much ease of use.

Thanks for the info, but I would like a user who has used the pitchfactor and can compare the loss of usability in the eventide pitchfactor vs MX-400 taking into consideration the higher quality harmonizing of the eventide. I'm making the assumption that eventide sounds are at least substantially better than lexicon. So to re-explain, while the pitchfactor is 400 bucks and the lexicon is only 300, taking practicality AND AND AND quality of harmonizer into account, which is better? It may be that no one has used the pitchfactor yet. I don't know how long it has been out. Thanks for trying, anyone else who has used it?


ps - I agree the lexicon is PLENTY good enough for karaoke, but if you can have eventide sounds at almost the same price, this is kind of exciting, and kind of my whole point.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:56 am 
hamsamich @ Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:34 am wrote:
of harmonizer into account, which is better? It may be that no one has used the pitchfactor yet.


I had a harmonizer, the auto tune deal, etc. I dumped it all for the basic reverb and echo on the Mackie pro board.

For me it's easier to deal with, and so far, never a complaint.


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I don't use the harmonizer functions of my Voiceworks. Too complicated to use for karaoke. I just use it as an upgraded mic preamp for my main vocal channel and use the reverb and delay effects.

A harmonizer is great to play with in a home studio or with a band where you know the 20 or so songs on the playlist and the vocal parts that warrant harmonies ahead of time, but I think you will find that using harmony effects on the fly is EXTREMELY difficult!

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I think you are right. I just want one to play with and maybe add some value to the karaoke show! My Zed12fx has good FX on it, but I want something better. I'm probably going to go with the lex, but just wanted to test the waters on the eventide. The hairs on my neck get all tingly when I think about using one.

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A harmonizer is a pretty specialized tool that only has application in select moments of select songs. As far as I'm concerned it has no place in Karaoke, especially since most tracks included harmony vocals in the areas they're needed anyway. A general mult-effects unit like the Lexi would be far more useful and worthwhile. For me this wouldn't even be a question, get the Lexi.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:16 am 
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thanks everyone. good comments. lexicon is on the way. been wanting one for years. sweet.

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