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In 3 years and about 250 shows I have had exactly ONE request to play a customer's CD.

As for key change it runs about 1 in every 100 songs (once every two shows).

Reverb requests come to about 5-6 times in 250 shows. About once in every 50 shows, or 2000 songs.

Yes ideally those things are something a DJ might consider being able to do, but because at least at my shows they impact a tiny minority of songs being sung they are not likely to impact the success or failure of the show much at all.

Your shows may be different, and the KJ in question may not be able to run a good show, but the reasons would not be because the three reasons given above.

Wow you would think that would be a standard reset option after a song was stopped. I would hate to use a program like that. All my players & software I have ever used resets automatically.

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It seems from the forum talk that some shows with karaoke that really doesn't cater to karaoke 100% doesn't attract those customers. I get up to 10 customer discs per night, but we run strictly karaoke and the customers know it - and believe it or not still spend AND have fun.


As above. Those who don't know will not care & either just strain & scream or not do the song - these are the customers to educate - HEY try lowering it next time to fit your voice, let them know you have the ability. Many computer users don't these days or choose not to use it for some reason.



Should never run a vocal mic dry so some sort of effect should be applied at all times. I rarley get asked for reverb, maybe an occasional echo effect.

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Try the opposite: put in some vocal effect, some revb. not to much but just enough. Don't tell your singers about it. See how many will request it to be turned off.

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Lonman wrote - Should never run a vocal mic dry so some sort of effect should be applied at all times. I rarley get asked for reverb, maybe an occasional echo effect.

I find most singers use the word "reverb" in place of the word effects in general. Probably because they don't know exactly what they are talking about. They ask and then I put the effects on their voice that I think fits best for the song. I catch myself using the word reverb for everything too, just because they do. I don't like a completely dry mic either.

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Effects, to me that's part of the hosts' jobs to get that set seconds into the song. Depending on the type of song, the actual song, and the singer. If you are working on this and get good at it, your requests for it will be minimal. The occasional singer who wants to feel like they are in the grand canyon. No or very little reverb on rap songs.

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I view the customer disk situation as a situation where karaoke singers in an area are NOT being provided the songs that they want to sing. If most or nearly all of the singers feel they are being provided the songs they want, there is little need to do customer disks.

I run 100% karaoke. I just happen to get the songs my singers want, many of the other KJs in the area are less than 100% legal and tend to have the songs the singers want as well.

THe only way that customer disks will get popular in an area is that the songs (and song versions) that singers want are not being provided at many or most of the local shows.

People like to practice their songs at home before they sing them in front of a crowd of people. Once they get used to singing to a particular version, they want that comfortable feeling of singing from the track they practice to and that's why they bring their own.

A lot of the pirates who buy loaded hard drives very rarely have many of the NEW titles. Just another reason to bring your own music, if you have it.

I have my manu preference for certain songs, and I used to not want to sing the songs unless it was the "right" manu. I've now stepped out beyond that and my confidence is such that I just don't care anymore. Much like singing with a band, you never know what you're going to get, but if you can make the best of it and get through the song all right, it's a pretty good feeling!
Oh and LTNC, Bruce. Good to see you're still around!

Roxbox's keychanger is pacemaker which I hated not because of it not resetting, never noticed that, but the fact that it took forever to make the keychange.

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My experience is very much like Lonman's. I know most other shows in my areas also accommodate key change requests and customer discs. Must be an area-to-area preference.

I believe it may in part be a issue of different areas, but it is also a big question of target singers.

(Ie in reference to bringing their own disks, key changes etc).

If there was a demand in my area to play their own discs I certainly would have gotten more than 1 request in 3 years. Maybe I have a show where people feel comfortable trying a new song without extensive practice with exactly the right version. If that is the case I am succeding as a KJ because the main thing about a show is making the singer at ease, even if the song is not exatly what they expect when a version gets a note or two wrong.

I do not accept that that characterizes my singers as "less serious" about karaoke. Same thing about key changes and reverb.

Most or probably all of my regulars know I can do key changes, or reverb. They just dont ask (and when they ask I can accomidate them).

If I have a singer that only asks for a key change once every 30 times they sing, it probably is not that important a factor most of the time for that singer.

I think we all have different crowds at our shows, and what may be important in some shows is not a noticeable concern at all elsewhere.

I believe it is bad to characterize other KJs who do not run their shows the same way you would as bad KJs or that their crowd is not as serious, or does not cater to karaoke 100%.

My customers are regulars for the most part, and few of them strain or scream into the mic. For the most part I think that I attract many if not most of the best singers for karaoke in the area to my shows.

As for reverb/echo dry mic. I have tried it to some extent, on average I don't feel it is heplful, but that is more personal preference on my part. Not to say that I woud not run it if asked. I just don't like it personaly, and it is a matter of taste on my part. I accept others may view things differently. No-one gets echo or reverb when singing in their car or shower.

Very interesting... but you are aware that ALL the music that you listen to have some form of effect added to it. This include most of the instrument used and not just vocal. So, even the track you use in the show already have some effect in them.

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>>> I believe it is bad to characterize other KJs who do not run their shows the same way you would as bad KJs or that their crowd is not as serious, or does not cater to karaoke 100%. <<<

I wouldn't say that I'm bagging on them for running a bad or wrong show. I think what got to me (and others) is a statement like, "I ain't gonna do a key change and if you can't sing the song in the key it's in, tuff." That kind of 'tude hits most people the wrong way, I know it did me.

I'd rather hear, "I don't key change, sorry" No more explanation is needed. I may not agree but I’m okay with that. There’s enough, in my opinion, ignorance in the world in general, to not have to hear it when discussing the finer points, and in my opinion, the proper ways, to run a karaoke show.

To not key change "because" is ignorant.

There is no "right" way to sing a song. Yoko Ono is a prime example of that fact.

So true.

The only right way to use Yoko On and the word "sing" in the same phrase or sentence is to insert the word "cannot" between them!

You mean to call this singing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMHl7bm ... r_embedded

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