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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:45 pm 
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Just thought I'd throw this out here in case anyone is interested. The two biggest changes are:

Stand alone app.
Ported to java (cross platform)
Same great rotation
Wider naming convention support
still free

It's not even safe for public consumption yet, so don't ask for an alpha.

There's a ton new features we're going to roll out too, but it's kind of a secret at this point. I just want to play my hands close to my chest. Let's just say any of the bragging rights the other softwares had, will be gone.

If there was any nagging bugs you ever had with autokdj, or features you wanted added go ahead and post them here and I'll share them with the rest of the dev team.


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I'm definitely interested, so keep us up to date. I'll admit, the move to Java makes me nervous, but I'm anxious to see what you come up with.

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Will it still be winamp based? Will it still use Pacemaker?


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stogie @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:31 pm wrote:
Will it still be winamp based? Will it still use Pacemaker?

He said it is a standalone so I would assume that it wouldn't be using pacemaker.

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toqer @ Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:45 pm wrote:
Just thought I'd throw this out here in case anyone is interested. The two biggest changes are:

Stand alone app.
Ported to java (cross platform)
Same great rotation
Wider naming convention support
still free


This means it will run on linux!?

The ONLY reason I run Windows on my karaoke laptops is because there are no linux based karaoke hosters, and none that I can get to perform reliably under WINE. If I can be freed from using this satanic abomination of an operating system I'll nominate you for sainthood!

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Excellent news! I was getting tired of Winamp crashing all the time... (and I know it was winamp..)
As for any new features we'd like to see, the only thing I can think of is to have the ability to change a singer's name when they are already in the rotation.
The reason for this is that sometimes, with the chicken scratch that I get handed, I will spell a name wrong, or it turns out that it's altogether completely wrong. Of course I often don't find this out until I've called the singer up and by then, their place in the rotation would be lost if I were to correct it by deleting them and redoing their name.
The other scenario I've come across is two singers will do a few duets together and of course, in my show, I allow 1 singer 1 song per round. Both singers use up their turn with the duet (I'm often too busy to allow any other way). In such a case, I pick ONE of the names to enter into the rotation. Then, one singer drops out, and wouldn't you know it? It's the singer whose name I used to enter the duets. This is problematic because I run a straight rotation and they get used to following so-and-so. Now I must either keep them under their former partner's name (and try and remember not to call the former partner), or I must enter them anew. If I enter them anew, they wonder why they now must wait much longer to sing than they did before.
An alternative (or additional feature!) would be to allow the ability to move the singers around in rotation(not just in the play list). This comes in handy when you have a twitchy finger, like I do and accidentally delete them from the rotation. Oops!
Good luck with the software!


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Congratulations on the new software. Since it's freeware and no chance of someone under cutting you, how about a sneak peek at the feature list? Are you still using FFT for the key changer?

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did someone say Linux? hot damn!

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If I can run it on FreeBSD, I'm ready to roll!!

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We're about 50% there.

Yes, it'll run on Linux, Mac, Windows, BSD, anything with a java VM. Java backend with lwjgl doing most of the screen drawing (light weight java gaming library/gl)

Maybe checkout http://lwjgl.org for more info on it. Try out the demo's there.

Also checkout minecraft, it's a java game that does things the way the new autokdj is doing it. Don't forget, the 2nd FE was completely written in Java using lwgl (for those that have tried it)

Maybe in the pre-ghz days java would have been unacceptable, but these days it's fast enough to pass things off to external decoders (lame mp3, open GL, assorted audio API's) So really the only intensive processing its going to be doing is just shuffling small bits of data around, which really isn't that intensive.

Even without using external decoders, java is fast enough to decode mp3's and apply software EQ's. on a GHZ + machine.


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Togy, are you sure you're not an android?..... :lol:


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Sounds great - please keep us up to date.

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What are you planning on using for key changer?

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toqer @ Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:24 pm wrote:


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mckyj57 @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:48 am wrote:
What are you planning on using for key changer?


Initial support is in for the soundtouch library (which is what pacemaker is built on)
http://www.surina.net/soundtouch/index.html

There are other pitch changers. I won't say which one, but the quality is leaps and bounds better. Problem is this..

Since most of these other pitch changers are closed source and windows only, we're really limited on what we can bundle with the new player.


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Have you considered not including a key changer? I have yet to hear one that actually sounded good. I think that there is too much information lost in the original digitization process to make it viable.

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Weedy, you are the guy to do this.
Key change is after all simply playing the music back at a faster or slower speed.
This is not a tempo change.
I did it electronicly back in the 80's.
Is it more difficult to do the software side?


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May I request an on-screen singer and message display that is easy to select?
I currently use your software but most of the features I don't use because they don't seem to work right (like Next Singer up name display). I've read your forum posts and watched the videos, and I still was confused. Thanks and I look forward to your next big update toqer.

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jerry12x @ Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:25 pm wrote:
Key change is after all simply playing the music back at a faster or slower speed.

A digital key changer does nothing to the speed. I had an old Pioneer player with Aux input and was able to change the key of outside sources that the audio was just plugged into the player.

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