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enzoab
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:31 am |
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chrism1
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:56 am |
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not sure about their powered speaker by I run a set of SA15-T's from Seismic that are awesome....and you cannot beat the bang for the buck !!!!
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Lonman
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:45 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:57 pm Posts: 22978 Songs: 35 Images: 3 Location: Tacoma, WA Been Liked: 2126 times
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Might be worth a try just for the fact they are confident in their product enough to put this blurb in their about us.
If You Do Not Like Our Speakers or Pro Audio Gear for Any Reason, We Will Buy It Back From You.... NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
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kjbob
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:54 pm |
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Has anyone here actually taken them up on the money-back guarantee? If so what was the xp like?
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stogie
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:59 pm |
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The price is very tempting, but I can't imagine that the drivers they use are very good which means that the sound quality isn't going to be very good. If they sound good I would be very surprised, but if they do it's a real bargain.
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:44 pm |
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Peavey-ish is a huge exaggeration -- Seismic is a terrible brand. Their design folks flat out do not understand fundamental concepts involved in, well, designing a speaker!
There are some good powered speakers out there, but you aren't going to find much quality in this price range.
_________________ Jeff Wheeler, moonlight DJ/KJ
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enzoab
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:07 pm |
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jeffsw6 @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:44 pm wrote: Peavey-ish is a huge exaggeration -- Seismic is a terrible brand. Their design folks flat out do not understand fundamental concepts involved in, well, designing a speaker!
There are some good powered speakers out there, but you aren't going to find much quality in this price range.
Interesting. I guess what I meant was the weight; very close, and the basic speaker size, etc. As far as it's performance, I have no idea. I know their stage snakes kick (@$%!) big-time. I have one and for the price, nothing comes even close.
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lyquiddye
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:59 pm |
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Looks like something that wouldn't last very long.
If you want something inexpensive but of decent quality buy Peavey or Yamaha.
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:45 am |
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enzoab @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:07 pm wrote: I know their stage snakes kick <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> big-time. I have one and for the price, nothing comes even close.
EWI is similar price, more durable, and better connectors/labeling. FWIW.
_________________ Jeff Wheeler, moonlight DJ/KJ
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enzoab
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:44 am |
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lyquiddye @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:59 pm wrote: Looks like something that wouldn't last very long.
If you want something inexpensive but of decent quality buy Peavey or Yamaha.
That's what I did. Just passing it along.
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letitrip
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:00 pm |
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:53 am Posts: 1462 Location: West Bend, WI Been Liked: 3 times
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As a general rule, lightweight speakers and good speakers are pretty much polar opposites. All the characteristics that make a speaker system high quality also make it heavy (solid rigid cabinets, large voice coils/magnets, etc). Buying lightweight you have to accept that you're making compromises in audio quality.
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jerry12x
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:50 pm |
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I agree except I have the Mackie 350's V2.
But these are the weight of the 450's.
They are not light.
Really don't get the price though.
They are like for next to nothing.
Buy back?
I am confused.
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letitrip
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:17 am |
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jerry12x @ Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:50 am wrote: I agree except I have the Mackie 350's V2. But these are the weight of the 450's. They are not light. Really don't get the price though. They are like for next to nothing. Buy back? I am confused.
Jerry, on a few occasions on this board I've said I believe the Mackies are probably the best of the lightweight cabs. As strange as it seems, it's almost as though they've spent so much time building inexpensive equipment that they've kind of perfected it. The only explanation I have is that the cheapo brands (Peavey, Samson, etc) focus on saving money not only in components but also in design. The high end Manus (EV, JBL, etc) are so used to working on high-end cabs that when they try to make a budget line it generally doesn't do as well. Mackie spends a lot of time in design and somehow squeezes a lot more out of lesser components but their components are also not normally as low end as the budget brands.
Even still, while they are probably the best of the lightweights out there, put them up against a comparable birch cabinet model with higher end drivers and you'll notice the difference.
_________________ DJ Tony
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jeffsw6
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:10 am |
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JBL or EV can't build a $300 speaker that's "too good," because it would take away from sales of the next model up, and so on. Manufacturers without high-end products don't really have to worry about that, such as Mackie.
_________________ Jeff Wheeler, moonlight DJ/KJ
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letitrip
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:52 am |
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jeffsw6 @ Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:10 pm wrote: JBL or EV can't build a $300 speaker that's "too good," because it would take away from sales of the next model up, and so on. Manufacturers without high-end products don't really have to worry about that, such as Mackie.
yeah that is true too. However, if you look at the time and effort sunk into the EON line (for instance), they do know they have to make it better if they're going to compete in that market space. In my book, the EON's still stink but the latest ones are far better than the original EON-15's.
I remember when Mackie first introduced the SRM series. My business partner saw them and said "Great, Mackies making the cheap crappy version of JBL's crappiest speaker line". Then we heard them for the first time and it changed our minds completely, they were far superior to the EON-15's which didn't make much sense considering the manufacturers of each.
There's a lot I don't like about Mackie, but I gotta admit as far as feature/fuction in relation to fit for purpose, they do a really nice job. If they can just figure out the manufacturing problems they'd be a lot better off.
I do have to say, I kinda miss the old riders with the "No Mackie" clause in them.
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eben
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:13 pm |
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I just got a pair of JBL EON 515s and to me they are best of the both worlds. They sound pretty good (I am sure for more money you can get better sound) and they are LIGHT! My old pair of EON 15s, I had to have help putting them on the speaker stand. These, I can do it myself. Just about half the weight than the 15s. However, they had to put in more power to bring out similar volume (maybe slightly higher volume than 15s) but to me the weight is worth the upgrade.
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jr2423
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:19 pm |
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For karaoke in small tavern type venues, the EV ZXA1 appears to be the perfect piece of equipment. At 19 lbs each and 400-550 watts program they'll be a welcome addition to the inventory.
ElectroVoice advertises these at 800 watts, but they don't say anything else other than they underrate their equipment by 30%. This would imply if the 800w were peak then 30% above that would be approximately 1100w (peak as well); which then would equate to 550w program. And even if they weren't 30% underrated, the power should be at 400w program. That’s 100w more than my American Audio speakers.
Of course my assumptions could be wrong and your mileage may vary
I just ordered and received two this past weekend and I'll be testing them this coming Friday.
I'm replacing two American Audio DS15Ps weighing approx 40lbs each.
I understand the difference in low end will be significantly noticeable, but for Karaoke Singing, I understand they complement vocals quite nicely.
And while I wouldn't use these alone for a DJ gig without a sub, If I deem more low end is necessary for just karaoke, I'll add one of my old Behringer powered speakers, turn off the highs and max the lows; instant powered sub. I’ve' done this before with the American Audios providing High/Mids and it worked very well.
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kjbob
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:11 pm |
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We are straying far from the original post, ha ha, but my EV SxA300's are pretty light, I think around 34 lbs each? And I like how the vocals cut through the mix really well.
Here's a fun anecdote: last gig I used the EV's at, a private party inside a winery cave, some of the singers heads were a foot away from one of the EV's (which were on speaker stands just above head height) and there was ZERO feedback. The mics were essentially pointed directly at the speaker cones too, with the singer's head in between (ie mic > singer's head > speaker cone)
They were using wireless SM 58's on PGX receivers so I'm not sure if credit goes to the mics or the speakers but I was sooo surprised that there was no feedback.
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