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I see now that their website has been changed from today to tomorrow with no specific time...

I just hope it is as professional looking as the kiosk that Tricerasoft created and does not take up too much resources.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

There are some strlen problems, to be sure. If the song title is more than 40 characters, it won't be saved in the singer history.

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[color=#ffff55]Mickey J.[/color]
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

'Course!

Oh you mean our rantings about piracy? Sorry that offended you so much. We are at such a loss for words over you. NOT

While my choice of colorful metaphors towards the subject of copyright violation might be offensive to some (like, those that violate copyright) Those that agree with me can not, and will not take offense to our decisions to call pirates out on a level they really deserve.

One of the bits that remained with me from college was my business 101 class. Our professor once filled our young, malleable minds with something you might contrive as drivel, "Even if you don't like someone, if they're making you money it's good business to stick with them"

Of course, I'm sure you storm out of your venues when a customer curses too, because it's so inconvenient for your ears.

I don't mind if people don't agree with me, I don't mind if people don't like autokdj, hell I don't mind if people don't like my cursing, but these things are all mutually exclusive of one another. You always seem to be on a Don Xixote type mission to prove to the world that they shouldn't even look our way, because we curse. Boo hoo.

I've followed your posts, you pop up and troll my cursing every one in a while. You even make stuff up, you once even said you didn't like me on the jolt forums. ( I've never even been to the jolt forums) SO it would seem like you're on your own little one man mission to discredit us. Why?

My guess, you're compuhost. No regular person would have the motivation to continue on this one man mission of yours.

Meh I gotta go to mass, I'll continue this when I return.

toger, you're not getting the point. While I somehow agree with you, bottom line is: There is a difference if I curse as an individual or as someone representing a "company". And while I'm not saying, you didn't have any reason to be angry, if you represent autokdj and plan on teaming up with manufacturers, you should have a more professional way of going about your anger. Of course those manufacturer's think three times about teaming up with someone who's representing himself in that unprofessional manner.

And that's exactly what tbreen was saying, and he's right about that.

Again, I want to make that clear. I am (as most on here on the forum are) as angry as you about pirates, undercutting and "stealing" work from us people, who try to do it the right way. But for heaven's sake, if you feel like cursing, do it in private and not on a public forum and then sit there and wonder about those companies not wanting to team up with you.

And yes, I agree... tbreen is related to Compuhost/Invicion, there's no doubt about it in my mind. But you know what? At least he's being nice and helpful on other forums and not like others (Bob from Latshaw for an example) who have nothing else in mind than being an a$$ in public forums and calling everyone else dumb and stupid, just because they don't agree.

So please don't get offensive, try to take my comment as what it is. A word of advice.

(edited spelling mistakes)

Just my two cents here:
That ranting that is referred to was posted AFTER Toquer discovered that his software that was given out FREE was being used to host pirates shows in direct conflict with his own. Before that, it was as business-like as any other. In case you haven't been lately, it's business-like again.
Like I said his software is FREE as in no money paid!
He's actually providing a SERVICE for ZERO compensation, and you want to jump down his throat because someone was using hos software to STEAL business from him?
Seriously???
What was your problem?

I'd like to point out that the Manus dismissed Toquer's idea LONG BEFORE his rant...... How do I know?
Because I WAS THERE!

I understand diafel, but that doesn't change the fact that his behavior is far from being professional.

Regardless, he can act whatever way he want. He's giving it away for FREE.
And it doesn't negate that fact that it's a good product. Nor does it take away from the fact that the idea we are talking about came from him FIRST!

The post from Sevarin was not a put down.
Toqer is doing awesome stuff and gets my respect.
I can clearly see that he has Sevarin's respect.

You are right.
To make something that is then used to TRY and compete with you really sucks.

For your info, the way that Chartbuster and Invicion are doing the content is totally different than the way Toqer's was setup. You can't just from Compuhost get the content. You have to go to either CHartbuster's or Invicion's website (when they start content) to get the files.

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The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.

If he had his facts straight it wouldn't be insulting.

Sure, I cursed. I cursed because a guy walked into the club I work at between late 2008 and 2009, while I was working, and bragged how he had his ill gotten karaoke hard drive, 0 cd's and was going to use autokdj because it was so awesome. I heard "Kill me with my own gun" so to speak.

Despite the nonsensicalness of this, I looked at our own logo and steamed.


How would you like getting mowed down with your own gun of supreme killing gibbing and awesomeness?

This was well after many years of attempts to get the Manu's to roll with us. I attended the NAMM convention in Anahiem 3 years in a row talking to people starting in 2004. I got Joe Blackie to check us out once, and I got in fairly close with pocket songs for a while, I even got to run their booth using autokdj on a nice plasma screen I borrowed from a friend. Their company wasn't comfortable about digital, and most others remained fearful of coming anywhere near digital delivery at that time.

I mostly pitched to the manu's to formalize a protocol for purchasing songs. I told them this could be as simple as everyone agreeing on using the same software for delivery, and this is coming to fruition with Tricerasoft. I just never imagined that the software would be an online service to the manus, as I had always pitched they just agree to use the same online store software, like zencart and they all get their own servers. Kudo's to Gai for recognizing most of these manu's are just incapable of doing that on their own, and going for it.

We're just a group of guys on a mission, to fix all the messed up stuff with how karaoke is run. We believe in a minimalist approach in software. There is no central leadership. There is consensus and disagreements between us, we hang out 24-7 in our IRC channel and chat about everything. Piracy, digital rights, user rights, everything. It's almost like a brother in arms type of setup. Circle of trust, that sort of thing. We are friends. We're not a company.

I can name at least 5 karaoke songs off the top of my head that say n***** or f*** or a**. I can think of one that says (@$%&#!), one that says balls. We work in bars, just like you do. If a little cursing turns you off, you're in the wrong business. We don't work the high and mighty church scene.

Being that, we are brothers in arms with everyone here(hosting karaoke) and we've gone the extra distance for the general scene(giving out autokdj), there is no reason at all you should criticize autokdj for my cursing. I knew that pirate was going to our website the next day, he had to get the message. I couldn't even find it on the wayback machine, which tells me it was probably a real short episode, oh well.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.autokdj.com

Beyond that, Why is tbreen dwelling on it so much? If it's his personal issue with me, don't hold it against the software. There are plenty of people here, and elsewhere that agree or disagree, but still use autokdj. This goes back to what I said earlier about business 101.

Concensusly, as I said, these are my friends, my brothers. Sometimes emotions run high tbreen. If you saw your brother get kicked in the nuts, would you just stand there watching? Seriously.

Myself, it is no secret where I stand on things. I've authored articles for years on my own website at 7bamboo, and autokdj.

I know the manu's pass my words around, and secretly cheer my attitude, because the level of piracy, and true unprofessional is enough to make me nauseous, it's enough to make me curse, and want to stack every pirate rig into a giant pyramid, that I douse with gasoline and then set ablaze. You'll see the crazy glean in my eye as I stare back at you from the shadows, and all you will hear is my cackling laughter as I ride a gigantic nuke down to wreck every pirate in existence.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzD-zGIJkbY[/youtube]

Actually, I really wasn't aiming anything at Sevarin, per se, just clarifying that one needn't hold anyone's personal behaviour as a reason to dismiss a fantastic program.
Honestly, it's not a business. Why hold them to some fictitional higher standard than anyone here? Toquer can do and say as he pleases. He makes a fantastic program and GIVES it away. What more do you want or expect?
And for tbreen to dismiss autokdj off hand, just because of some remarks that were made a long time ago for a relatively short period of time is silly, and it really is unbecoming.
autokdj is a fantastic program and does what it should with little effort needed to learn to run it, and it's FREE. But perhaps that's the REAL problem here. If tbreen really is involved with Compuhost, then perhaps it's the competition he doesn't like.......

Of course he can do as he wishes diafel, that was not my point. The point is what kind of image people will associate with his person. That's all.

I just got an update from Invicion support and they were kind enough to post some preview screenshots of the new Kiosk Add-On for Compuhost.

Here ya go:


Can't wait to get my hands on this =)

Part 2:

I wonder where I've seen this before, could it... wait, oh yeah... I remember now:



Which gives you this:



But we also have this:



Wow and Super Remote Request Tool has Profiles, I wonder what they called their option... But catch this, SRT doesn't have to be used with only TriceraSoft stuff, it can also be used with anything (WMP, WinAMP, S&D, whatever has a playlist and drag/drop). And it adds a singer rotation to anything you want.

Yah I was thinking the same thing Gai, where have I seen this before too?



Little web access too, for you know, mobile devices..



Kiosks are so 2004....

Agreed - lmao

I've never seen your kiosk client - I like the colors.

WOW! I can't believe where this has gone. Again, a true testomony to how UNprofessional our profession has become!

First, let me address those that accuse me of somehow being affiliated with Compuhost. I guess it depends on your definition of AFFILLIATED? I started out as a very satisfied user of one of their other products, FastTracks, and started using Compuhost around the time of its first release in 2005. Since then I have offered quite a few feature suggestions, some they instituted, some they didn't, but at least they listened! I have also participated in a few alpha-beta test sessions, as I'm pretty sure Sevarin has. But most of all, I feel a part of the development of Compuhost, and to a small degree, feel a little responsible. I've also become sort of a Compuhost marketer and go-to guy for fellow Compuhost users in my area, some of which are Compuhost users because of me. So, if this defines an affiliation in your eyes...GUILTY AS CHARGED!

To Toger: Although you're probably going to deny it, isn't it true that when you first released Autokdj, you self proclaimed yourself as knowing more than the other software developers by publicly stating something to the effect of "they are stupid, the money is not in selling their software, its with selling content. The secret is giving away the software, and charging for the content." Bring back memories Toger? Well, history seems to have proven otherwise hasn't it?

And now Tricerasoft: I gave your organization alot more credit than you obviously deserve! You've now lowered yourself to using forums such as this to promote your products by trying to discredit others? WOW! Personally, I tried your Remote Tool, it truly looks like a child with a crayon designed the screens! Is that the best you can do? And let me remind you that it was MICROSOFT that introduced the word PROFILE (as in USER PROFILE) to the common computer user (UNIX and other systems before that). NOT YOU! So Invicion's choice to use the term only makes sense. If the use of a simple WORD constitutes copying to you, than you owe MICROSOFT some royalties, yes?

The fact is, Invicion, through hard work and listening to their users continue to deliver top notch products, improving on some competitor ideas, innovating with their own. But isn't that the way its supposed to be? If not, you wouldn't have the choices in cars, appliances, restaurants (the list goes on and on) you have today! I will not lower myself by further participation in this debate. I was raised to respect the opinion of those you respect as a person, and not waste time on those you don't.

tbreen