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You guys are funny.. you're comparing buying 1,000 songs for less than $70 to smoking cigarettes, or knocking up your high school girlfriend.

That's how I *know* some of you guys have gone off the deep end.

Either that, or you've got more money than good sense.

This guy comes along just starting out and you're advocating he just not even bother unless he can blow $3,000+ on music.

But then again, it's the same group that swears you can't run a show unless you're using $400 wireless microphones.

It's true there are hard core karaoke types that do turn their nose up at SGB tracks, or anything less than a SM58 wireless, but those types are the exception, not the rule.

But the up side to that is i've bought many of my SoundChoice discs from morons who thought they needed to start out with $3000 worth of music, then couldn't find any jobs and ended up having to sell their stuff at a loss.

Smart thinkin'.

Ahh, there's the rub. If I knew then what I know now, then I would have known how to get the best versions of the songs that would be sung for a good price. But I didn't know what songs were going to be sung, or if we would even get more than our one night when we first started. SGB was just too cheap not to try. I was keeping track last SAT and one after another was being done--they have popular songs on that set.

Have never seen a singer die from singing one but a fellow came close to choking with laughter one night--he was trying to do the SGB version of "Gentle On My Mind" and the words were so nonsensical he couldn't keep his concentration. When he got to the bizarre, "My beard rests on a cold towel," he almost fell over. (since replaced with CB.) But then I have also seen that happen when ladies in bikinis start cavorting around with Fabio-like males on the laser disc videos.

I think the word core, has a lot to do with the answers here......as if to build up or around from, and is it home use, or to make money? I've paid more for a lousy dinner for two, so the price isn't going to set you back, and frankly, there are some places you could probably make a few bucks using SGBs. Also, without what we perceive as bad, we wouldn't know what we think is good. If you buy them, and you think another brand is worth the extra expense, then you have spent quite a bit less for a true learning experience, than some of us on here have spent......you can always put them back on ebay, and there is nothing wrong with buying them on ebay.

I actually i've never bought the SGB collection! But have heard it enough when it first came out in the stores (local brick & mortar let me take home to listen) & at other shows that use them and thought the collection was a joke overall - and I still do. I have 4 SGB discs in my collection - they were gifts. Funny thing is the person bought the discs for specific songs, and listened to them and he sings the SC versions I already had when he comes in even though he gave me discs.

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Exactly, good enough to fill in holes with songs that aren't released - but nothing more. Yes again, i've even said this, they do have their gems, but they are far and in between.

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Who would hold the crowd longer? Well first of all, I'm not going to start out with $100 worth of music! Keep on doin' what you do and those of us that have an ear and customers who have an ear with keep on doin' what we do. Like I said, not all SGB is #%$%, but much of it is. I bought some when I first started out, now it's just filler in my library.

It's like comparing a harmonica with a plastic cover plate to a metal one. Yeah, they are both harmonicas, but what pro is going to use the plastic?

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Why don't we just post all the gems?

Must we go through this fearmongering again? Really?

Do not fear legitimate business leases.

I was simply illustrating the point that if a person only had a limited budget to get started, $100 would go a lot farther with the SGB collection than SoundChoice.

Your harmonica analogy is actually perfect.. which is better? A plastic harmonica, or NO HARMONICA?

Nothing wrong with starting off with a SGB collection, especially for the price, then slowly upgrading and expanding your catalog.

Even after you've bought thousands of dollars worth of SoundChoice, you're still going to have gaps that your initial $70 investment in a SGB collection will fill and provide 1,000+ songs of 'fluff' to your catalog.

Forget the SGB collection they really do suck IMO.
If you need a low cost core set to get started with go on ebay and search for DK karaoke. I seen some nice sets for $100.00-$200.00 ranging from 525 up to 1810 songs. DK's are still some of my favorite versions. I had many of their disc before Sound Choice was available. If you can afford it get the SC foundations but DK is a good alternative.

Interesting that you would say that. Why would that be?

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Supercore isn't bad.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Seems obvious, to keep them from making the same mistake?

If a person was just going to do this for home parties, that's fine. And again, some of the songs aren't bad, but the whole idea behind karaoke was to be able to sound like the original. SGB struggles with that.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Gotta comment on this one,,,,,, agree with Bruce.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

I'll take the plastic, but ONLY so that there is SOME kind of entertainment. Better than silence. I wouldn't base my business model on that concept though. Would you tell your customer that?

"Hey, my karaoke tracks aren't all that great, but because of that, I am able to offer you more song selection." Debatable but I want the word "quality" associated with my business.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Too bad there isn't a way on these forums to list out a bunch of tracks and then let users rate them. I'd be curious how many SGB tracks there are and which one are considered moderately good to good.

Two SGB tracks I think are good:

1. Route 66; and
2. Barricuda

Birdofsong

I can remember singing karaoke when everybody was using Sweet Georgia Brown, and DK Karaoke. (at least where I was singing). Sure, some of the versions weren't that great, BUT I was still able to go out and have a good time singing with my friends. A while back there was a thread concerning DK Karaoke, and many of you said they HATED DK, because of the flute. So, what you're saying, is all the shows I was going to at that time were playing (sh#$) for music, and shouldn't have been in business. AMAZING how at that time places were PACKED with singers having a good time. NOW we all have Sound Choice, Chartbuster, Zoom, and who knows what other manus, and WISH we had the crowds that those KJs had with their less than desirable tracks, and INFERIOR equipment (by today's standards). I admit that I have the entire SGB collection, DK collection Mellinium Series, Sound Choice Foundations, and several Bricks, also Chartbuster Essential 450's 1-6, and numerous random discs, and WISH I had the crowds I used to see at venues. NOBODY (in my area) has those types of crowds. If you're in my area and have large crowds, let me know, and I'll attend one of your shows. AGAIN, as you've noticed, the OP hasn't even commented on if they're using these discs at home, or for business. My guess is at home.

Rosario
Serenity Now Karaoke

Serenity, the show we attended for years (that ran 16 years until the place recently burned down) was always busy and a lot of fun--very imaginative and humerous hosts. I never noticed what type of music they had until lately as I had always brought my own songs in order to have ones that no one else sang. Started paying attention and it was mostly SGB and MM. Shocked me. Always thought this was one of the higher quality shows. However, it was also unique in another way--the hosts estimate that it runs 90% off of singer's bringing their own discs. In fact, having not been to too many other shows, I always thought that was how it was done, anyway. But yes--16 years on SGB, etc.

SGB has some great old 60's tracks. I grew up with Cream. The SGB tracks sound a lot closer to the music of the day than anything else I've come across. I just wish they did a better job with the lyric swipes.

Yes, they are recorded louder than anyone else's tracks. I'm thinking of re-ripping them at 256k instead of 320k. Also normalizing might help. There are quite a few great tracks I would use first. But if I have another version, I will usually select it first, too. My books don't show a disc#, so I will usually select for the singer unless they had a preference. You'd be surprised how many will request an Idol Makers, a KJ Tools, or an Nutech SAV just because that's what they practice with at home.

I bought a Legends disk once for a regular at my shows. He actually told me he liked the rendition of Cool Change better than the SC version. Imagine that!

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