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I did not realize that anyone was asking us to replace any damaged disc, I guess I missed that one! I have many disc that I could not rip to my computer because they were damaged, so I simply don't have those songs even though I would like too.
I had some that I had made copies of because of cracks starting in the center and from experience I knew they weren't going to last long and was able to rip from the copies. I also had songs on my system that are useless because they were ripped from disc that had damage to them. What I do is simply do without those songs.
The one thing I can say is that none of my disc have received any more damage since I ripped them to the computer, how did your's get damaged after the fact? If it is a matter of storage you may need to look at another method of storing them!




Not a word but I haven't asked anyone directly either, however I will send David an E-mail with the link to this thread and ask him directly what they are looking for?

Thanks for all the great feedback.

My only hope is that, someday, there will be a true way to stop pirating and have computer based content accepted before Karaoke is a thing of the past.

MTU paid a lot of money to have a law firm investigate the validity of media-shifting CDGs to a computer. This Link is where you can view the findings:
http://ipjustice.org/karaokefairuse.shtml

Even so, none of this has been tested in court.

I have several lawyers that come to one of my shows. Many are Public Defenders but one used to work for Barnes & Thornburg. She relocated to Chicago for a few years and litigated in Federal Court. She re-located back to Indy where we had a chance to talk about the SC lawsuits and, generally, what may be coming down the pike from all Karaoke Manufacturers.

Basically, she was shocked that SC could do this and offered to initiate a 1st strike against SC. This is to bring an action before the Federal Court to force a ruling on the matter...to get a Judge to rule as to the legality of media-sifting according to Fair-Use. She wanted about 4-5 grand. She stated that 4-5 grand is cheaper than the 40-50 grand if SC files first.

But, I do have another interesting take on the actual Trademark issue.

As most of the Fair-Use law talks about IP (Intellectual Property), one could argue that SC is smart by only suing for Trademark Infringement.

However, we are not talking about a SC Trademark on the Inserts of Jewel Cases. We are talking about the displayed Trademarks that come from PLAYING a SC SONG.

Well, seems to me, that if a "Trademark" is added as part of the SONG, then, it is no longer separate and the Trademark becomes part of the total work...which is the IP. In other words, a SC Trademark will not show unless a Karaoke Player has PLAY initiated. I realize their Trademark is showing, but, in this scenario, IP Justice's conclusions would be spot on as the Total Work (the IP) would come under scrutiny.

Food for thought.

And I certainly agree with you, if you don't want to go through the "voluntary" audit and certification program there certainly isn't anything in there that says you will be forced to "volunteer"!

The program is there for those who "wish" to do it.

Sorry I thought he was talking about damage to irreplaceable disc!

But if we use that logic then every pirate can use it as well, where is the damage to the manus if they are only pirating irreplaceable disc? Since the manus can't replace them does that make it fair game for anyone to use them?

and you left this part out. If you don't submit to the voluntary audit prior to using purchased tracks in CDG form that was transferred to mp3+G format you leave yourself open to being named in a lawsuit.

So no you don't have to, but you will be considered a pirate if you don't. Guilty until proven innocent?

Received from Chartbuster 4/1/11


[color=#400080]Chartbuster Karaoke Remote Auditing
The Audit will be conducted at a prearranged time.

You will need:
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6. A Soldering Iron For Marking Your Discs: This will be shipped to you in a self-return package from Chartbuster Karaoke prior to your audit date. You will be responsible for returning it.
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Didn't leave it out, it is already a given, if you copy your disc to computer in violation of the laws as written, then you are quilty it isn't a matter of proving your innocence, it is a matter of mitigating the circumstances. That is simply the chance you take!

What so many seem to not realize is that all of us who transfered our songs for computer use without prior authorization were quilty of piracy, I know of only one person here who obtained that permission before transfering to computer. I am gulity of it and have always held that position from the day I put my computer system to use and so stated on the KJ boards many times!

I chose to seek that permission and go through the audits, if it means paying a small fee for the privledge each year then I am good with that also.

Didn't leave it out, it is already a given, if you copy your disc to computer in violation of the laws as written, then you are quilty it isn't a matter of proving your innocence, it is a matter of mitigating the circumstances. That is simply the chance you take!

What so many seem to not realize is that all of us who transfered our songs for computer use without prior authorization were quilty of piracy, I know of only one person here who obtained that permission before transfering to computer. I am gulity of it and have always held that position from the day I put my computer system to use and so stated on the KJ boards many times!

I chose to seek that permission and go through the audits, if it means paying a small fee for the privledge each year then I am good with that also.