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Any mention in regard to those hosts that use original manufacturers' discs in the show, or can produce them for management?

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" Disc based and loving it..."

It says it somewhere in the package to make sure your host has original manu discs (or something to that effect) or if running computer can prove disc ownership.
I don't know if it was sent out to all the clubs, but I do know ours got one.

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So in other words SC is having the venues themselves do an informal audit of the host, or at least do some of the questioning for the manu? The next step I'm sure is that the manus will have the various venues setup appointments for hosts. If the host wants to keep working for the venue they will have to report for an audit , pay their fees or lease the GEM series. Yes this is very neat indeed!

Unless the packets being sent out are different than what is on the site, it says this:

"For a Karaoke Host to have legally acquired Karaoke songs, they would have had to purchase a compact disc-format product for each and every song on each and every system they might have in operation. "

Well no not really, yes they are informing clubs that kj's with hard drives are the more likely ones to be at risk and they should be aware of the fact. They are not trying to sell the GEM to the club nor even mention it in the package I saw. Just letting them know about potential risks to the kj and if ignored, possibly to the club as well. It doesn't mention the audits at all. Pretty smart move IMO. I know you will highly disagree with anything SC does.

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Yeah, that seems to promote that KJ's who use "compact disc-format product" to be the legit ones now doesn't it?

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What's funny about that is I do one club that has a different company every week of the month. 1 runs legit cds with small selection, 1 has cd only huge library, all burns does not own originals, 1 has a CAVS but own a good chunk of what is on it, and I run on pc and own the originals. Feel like I can't win

Maybe, but what if hosts have their entire library on their computer and legally own the disc for every one? Is that still wrong? If so, why?

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"If my love were in my arms, and the night were long, what reason would I have to wrench the silence into song." - To me from my Sally. <3

Well, who better to promote and advocate that the only "legit" KJs are the ones who are "certified" by Sound Choice, than Sound Choice and their minions? There are hundreds of KJs with legitimate files that they paid for and shifted from CD-ROM to digital files to use on their computer. To say to bars and restaurants that the only "legit" ones must be certified by Sound Choice is a crock and is dishonest on top of that.

Add to that the GROWING number of legal sources to download karaoke tracks and the plastic disc/media shifting issue seems very silly to most intelligent people in 2011.

So that is considered "wrong" then? Pfft. Hogwash! Our world is becoming digital, weather we like it or not. Record-Tape-CD-.mp3. Heck, I like that whole change. My mum and dad had many many records, CD's and tapes. I can have all of that clunky, space taking music in a small laptop, or even .mp3 player. Now, that all did come with it's downsides. Tape got eaten, CD's got scratched, and now .mp3's are being downloaded illegally.

In the end what I am getting to is this: If you want to say it's wrong or illegal to run a computer based system with all legally obtained tracks, better get a hold of the record companies! Because anyone who has ripped a CD onto their computer, or copied it for a friend needs to be caught! I know a few 'super-criminals' if that's the case! I mean, really? What is our society coming to guys?

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Get up and try singing. Don't be afraid, it's only massive fun and the best stress relief I know of! =D

"If my love were in my arms, and the night were long, what reason would I have to wrench the silence into song." - To me from my Sally. <3

Well, if the packet points out that original mfrs. disc based hosts are not an issue, and that the information is more directed toward PC based hosts, then it gives me less to complain about than the letter template that HarringtonLaw posted.

You're right, I still don't like it, but at least it points out the difference.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Please pardon a quick hijack...

Ed, no disrespect, but a serious question- or rather a suggestion and a question:

Why not try selling the venue on using you on all karaoke nights?

If have tried, what's the obstacle?

This is strictly a learning question for me. The more I know, the more I can use myself. Nothing to do with any debates or other stuff.

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" Disc based and loving it..."

Ripping to one's own computer for one's own personal use seems to fit the criteria of "fair use", for those countries where such doctrine has been incorporated into law. Copying a copyrighted product for distribution to other persons certainly does not, and yes, those who do that need to be caught and stopped!

Isn't that the crux of the problem? Too many regard they have the right to violate others rights for their own purpose. So copies are made for their friends and for their friends friends, and their friends friends "friends" and so on and so forth.

It's considered wrong if you don't have permission. SC and CB are willing to give permission provided they have proof of your 1:1.

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Prime Cuts distributes my music to me on a CD in mp3 format SPECIFICALLY SO I CAN USE IT ON A COMPUTER! Why can't SC get on board with that concept? Because it would wreck their revenue scheme.

Because, as mentioned to ad nauseum there are DIFFERENT licences involved.

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They are onboard with the concept I.E. the GEM series.

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What is the purpose of quoting someone's text and then making a comment that totally disregards the text quoted?

What does your comment have to do with copying and distributing copyrighted material without the copyright owner's permission? Why can't you get with the concept of not shouting?

The reason I am not there every week is a political one within the entertainment committee of the board. I have another place my company is at every Saturday so it's not huge at this point, but certain committee members only book their friends.

almost.....the GEM still has an audit involved in the license agreement, Prime Cuts does not require this, nor does KJMP.

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