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NO! Just because he can't play your disc doesn't make him "not a professional". He makes money at it, he's a professional. I've had one person EVER ask to play a disc at one of my shows. I have a player now, haven't hooked it up. Isn't a deal breaker in my area.

Honestly, most singers that I have at my shows or shows I've been to, want to get the audience involved, even if they don't show it by the songs they sing. I love to sings on my own that I know wouldn't go over well at a show. So I don't do them. I want songs that get the place jumping. To each his own of course, stick to it if that is what makes you happy but don't make assumptions about hosts or throw them to the wolves so easily. If they treat you like dirt, yeah then do it but you haven't mentioned any stories of this, just that they can't play your disc so they aren't a professional, they must be a pirate.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

Can't say yea or na on 1 and 2 but 3 looks most likely true.

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KingBing Entertainment C'mon Up! I have a song for you!!! [font=MS Sans Serif][/font]

1. Then how dare you come here and tell us how to do our jobs and call us unprofessional? Would you be so arrogant as to call your family doctor unprofessional because he's not equipped to perform brain surgery in his office? Some people don't or won't or can't play discs for many valid reasons, as already pointed out to you, yet you insist on tarring us all with the same pirate brush!
2. Perhaps not, but it certainly makes me wonder why all the issues about you performing, then.
3. Clearly not.

Obviously KJs have been rude to me, otherwise I would not have made the comments that I did. If they just told me that they couldn't play the disk, I would go somewhere else, no harm no foul, but usually I get a dumb look, an insult, or totally ignored when I try to hand them a disk, and I do not believe that is "professional" behavior. It doesn't seem to have occured to anyone that I might have come by my opinion honestly, based on my experiences. Or, heaven forbid, that someone might actually listen to a customer's complaints, however (@$%&#!) they might sound, and use the information to improve himself...no...I am selfish to ask for that. OK.

Interest point about the singalongs, though...suppose there are three people in a bar who speak Spanish, and I sing along with them, in Spanish. Are the four of us being egotistical, narcissistic and selfish, or just me? Does it make a difference if they bring their disk, if I bring it, or if the song is in the book? What if the three of them spoke French or German instead? I was just thinking about the "double standard" comment.

I'm not telling you how to do anything, just sharing my opinion, from my point of view.

Suppose you walked into a brain surgeon's office, after setting up an appointment weeks in advance, travelled hundreds of miles to get to his office, and then when you asked him to perform surgery on your cerebral cortex...

He gives you a dirty look and asks you what a cerebral cortex is?

He is rude to you, turns his back and walks out?

He tells you that he doesn't work on the cerebral cortex and tells you to get the hell out of his office?

What would your opinion be if this had happened to you several times, with several different brain surgeons? Would you not start to form opinions about what is or is not "professional" conduct by a brain surgeon, whether you were a surgeon or not?



I'm not the one who brought that up, actually. Does anybody really read these threads, or do they just get angry and hit the reply button?

i see where you are going here, but you are missing one point.
if you went into the brain surgeons office and asked him to use YOUR instruments instead of his, i bet you would get something pretty close to what you have experienced.
considering that manufacturers of karaoke are SUING hosts for using material they do not own, and you walk in with a home burned disc of who knows what from who knows where, it should make sense why they are apprehensive of using your disc.

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I think that the reason that you are getting snubbed by these KJ's is due to the fact that AZ has been burnt by SC and KJ's do not want to get into a court battle with them thinking that there might be a PI in the place just waiting for the chance to get something on them and by you trying to get them to play your disc just might do the trick.

Even if it is a Manu Disc the PI can't see that and if the song you just happen to want to sing is on his watch list then the KJ could be served.

The looks you are getting probably relate to "What you think I'm stupid! I'm not getting caught up in this suit mess" although they will not say that to you they think you should already know.

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OMG. Now we're equating karaoke with brain surgery. What next?

For the young lady complaining about not playing disks, sometimes a KJ CAN"T play disks. I've been doing shows for 22 years. I would consider myself professional, but I don't have the capability to play disks. Why? My computer and mixer are enclosed in a rig that does not allow the CD/DVD player to open up. If I don't have something in my book that you want to sing, I can direct you to another show up the street. I don't need another headache from ANOTHER karaoke diva.

But back on the original subject, like many who've posted before, I take out dupes, but list the manu code next to the song. I DO find it helpful, and my singers find it helpful. No big deal. Everyone's happy. (Except the diva with her own disk).

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My first choice IS Sound Choice.

While I would disagree with your comments in regard to the professionalism of those that don't play discs, I agree with you that a professional Karaoke Host should be able to handle the situation civilly and with an intelligent answer in regard to why they won't play your disc- just to be polite.

While I am not a PC host, but rather one whose show is manufacturer disc based, I have come to understand the paranoia that one mfr. has instilled in some PC based hosts. However, that being said, I would add the following:

If a host is one that does not include the manufacturer version info in their book, then they really should make an attempt to be able to play customers' original manufacturers' discs, for no other reason that their patron will- at the very least- know what will come out of the speakers.

Those hosts that DO include mfrs. numbers in their books give an informed singer the choice to sing that version or try another song in a version that they are comfortable with.

Either way, a good Karaoke Host should be able to give a polite, civil, and KNOWLEDGEABLE answer for not playing a customer's requested disc, which this poster seems to have found in short supply in his/her area...

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"No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"

" Disc based and loving it..."

Great post Joe.

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My first choice IS Sound Choice.

While I'm truly sorry that some hosts were rude to you, it's still no excuse to come here assuming we are all like that and treat us according to your misconception.
We are NOT all like that and has been pointed out, sometimes there are very good reasons for not playing a discs, but it shouldn't be difficult for a host to explain in a polite manner why.

Obviously she has not read "How To Make Friends And Influence People".

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My first choice IS Sound Choice.