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TominNJ
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:11 am |
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Chartbuster seems to have stopped production of these sets. Some are available at an attractive discount at various places on the net. If you want disks, you might want to buy them now before they're gone.
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hiteck
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:48 am |
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TominNJ wrote: Chartbuster seems to have stopped production of these sets. Some are available at an attractive discount at various places on the net. If you want disks, you might want to buy them now before they're gone. I have a used set of E1 and E2 for sale. PM me if interested.
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DigiTrax Karaoke
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:12 pm |
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We have not discontinued this line - normal production for our Essential 450 series is still underway.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:37 pm |
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Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: We have not discontinued this line - normal production for our Essential 450 series is still underway. By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs?
_________________ "No Contests, No Divas, Just A Good Time!"
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Bazza
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:06 pm |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: We have not discontinued this line - normal production for our Essential 450 series is still underway. By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs? Yes! And what about vinyl, 8-Tracks and wax cylinders?
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:26 pm |
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Bazza wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: We have not discontinued this line - normal production for our Essential 450 series is still underway. By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs? Yes! And what about vinyl, 8-Tracks and wax cylinders? Up until very recently, "normal production" was on discs. VERY recently they started using cards. Therefore the question regarding the media was a valid one. However, I thank you for your input....
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Bazza
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:33 am |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: Up until very recently, "normal production" was on discs. VERY recently they started using cards. With good reason. CD media, is a dead one. Stick a fork in it....it's time to move on. It is no longer the 90's.
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rickgood
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:46 am |
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Bazza wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: Up until very recently, "normal production" was on discs. VERY recently they started using cards. With good reason. CD media, is a dead one. Stick a fork in it....it's time to move on. It is no longer the 90's. Not according to Sound Choice... long live the CD-ROM!
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DigiTrax Karaoke
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:47 am |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs? On discs and on SD cards. Demand on USB flash drive has not been strong enough to warrant widespread distribution, but it's an available option for special orders. We contemplated sunsetting this line over the summer, but customer feedback demanded we continue production. We plan to introduce the line on other media in the short term to keep up with current consumer needs, but we feel that digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic.
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:18 am |
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Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs? On discs and on SD cards. Demand on USB flash drive has not been strong enough to warrant widespread distribution, but it's an available option for special orders. We contemplated sunsetting this line over the summer, but customer feedback demanded we continue production. We plan to introduce the line on other media in the short term to keep up with current consumer needs, but we feel that digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic. Then why don't you find a way to legalize you digital downloads for Commercial use? I know you are pushing the HD but most of us have most of the songs on it from buying discs. If you would allow us to use the digital downloads in our shows I think (I know I would) buy more to fill in holes I have in my library and even the recent songs being put out.
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Bazza
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:31 am |
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rickgood wrote: Not according to Sound Choice... long live the CD-ROM! CD-Audio & CD-ROM are two very different things. Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic. The future? It's the way of NOW.
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DigiTrax Karaoke
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:02 am |
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Lone Wolf wrote: Then why don't you find a way to legalize you digital downloads for Commercial use? I know you are pushing the HD but most of us have most of the songs on it from buying discs. If you would allow us to use the digital downloads in our shows I think (I know I would) buy more to fill in holes I have in my library and even the recent songs being put out. The Holy Grail. Imagine a big bowl holding a full pound of cooked spaghetti, tossed with olive oil and basil flakes. Now imagine it sitting in the sun for three solid days. What you'll have left is convoluted, impenetrable, and brittle enough to snap under the slightest pressure. That's copyright law in the current age. There are many different considerations with digital downloads for commercial use, and very few of them are even as palatable as the above metaphor. In an age where companies with the resources of Google and Apple are stymied for years on end to get their offers out to consumers, how much harder is it for a company our size? We're not offering excuses, just stating realities of scale. We're working on it, and it's making progress. About like a glacier does. It will take a global climate change (read: overhaul of copyright law) to make that glacier calve anytime soon.
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:52 am |
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Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: Lone Wolf wrote: Then why don't you find a way to legalize you digital downloads for Commercial use? I know you are pushing the HD but most of us have most of the songs on it from buying discs. If you would allow us to use the digital downloads in our shows I think (I know I would) buy more to fill in holes I have in my library and even the recent songs being put out. The Holy Grail. Imagine a big bowl holding a full pound of cooked spaghetti, tossed with olive oil and basil flakes. Now imagine it sitting in the sun for three solid days. What you'll have left is convoluted, impenetrable, and brittle enough to snap under the slightest pressure. That's copyright law in the current age. There are many different considerations with digital downloads for commercial use, and very few of them are even as palatable as the above metaphor. In an age where companies with the resources of Google and Apple are stymied for years on end to get their offers out to consumers, how much harder is it for a company our size? We're not offering excuses, just stating realities of scale. We're working on it, and it's making progress. About like a glacier does. It will take a global climate change (read: overhaul of copyright law) to make that glacier calve anytime soon. Your illustrations are quite funny!!! Global climate is happening at an alarming rate (I know worst drought in Texas history). Glaciers are melting, SHIFTING, breaking off and floating away at an alarming rate. Other companies have found a way to get into the bowl of spaghetti and allow digital downloads for commercial use why can't you?
_________________ I like everyone when I first meet them. If you don't like me that's not my problem it's YOURS! A stranger is a friend you haven't met yet
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:23 pm |
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Bazza wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: Up until very recently, "normal production" was on discs. VERY recently they started using cards. With good reason. CD media, is a dead one. Stick a fork in it....it's time to move on. It is no longer the 90's. While you have made your point of view clear, it has nothing to do with the question at hand. CB has only been using cards for a number of months, and since the OP brought up the possibility of the E-450 DISC set going out of production, and since CB only stated that they remain in "normal" production, I was hoping Charbuster would clarify their answer- which they have. Thanks, CB.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:36 pm |
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Bazza wrote: Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic. The future? It's the way of NOW. Um, as CB just stated, licensing for the use of downloads in U.S. BASED karaoke shows is not currently available. So, if you were to use them "NOW", then your show would be based on music unlicensed for said use. Up to you, of course...
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DigiTrax Karaoke
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:22 pm |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: CB has only been using cards for a number of months, and since the OP brought up the possibility of the E-450 DISC set going out of production, and since CB only stated that they remain in "normal" production, I was hoping Charbuster would clarify their answer- which they have. Thanks, CB. At your service. Sorry we weren't more clear with our initial post.
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Bazza
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:15 am |
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JoeChartreuse wrote: Bazza wrote: Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic. The future? It's the way of NOW. So, if you were to use them "NOW", then your show would be based on music unlicensed for said use. Up to you, of course... Digital delivery is still the way of NOW, regardless. iTunes, Chartbuster, Pandora, Sunfly, iHeartradio, Tricerasoft, the list is endless. CB is correct. Plastic music is now antique and people don't want or need it any more.
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rumbolt
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:58 am |
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Lone Wolf wrote: Chartbuster Karaoke wrote: JoeChartreuse wrote: By "normal production" do you mean that they are still being produced on discs? On discs and on SD cards. Demand on USB flash drive has not been strong enough to warrant widespread distribution, but it's an available option for special orders. We contemplated sunsetting this line over the summer, but customer feedback demanded we continue production. We plan to introduce the line on other media in the short term to keep up with current consumer needs, but we feel that digital delivery is the way of the future. Customers want music, not pieces of plastic. Then why don't you find a way to legalize you digital downloads for Commercial use? I know you are pushing the HD but most of us have most of the songs on it from buying discs. If you would allow us to use the digital downloads in our shows I think (I know I would) buy more to fill in holes I have in my library and even the recent songs being put out. Why can you not use the KJMHD to fill in the gaps you have in your library like I and several others do. That is why I purchased it then I can fill the hole as my singers demand it.
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:22 pm |
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rumbolt wrote: Why can you not use the KJMHD to fill in the gaps you have in your library like I and several others do. That is why I purchased it then I can fill the hole as my singers demand it.
First off I have over 300 CB discs and the KJMHD would just repeat all that I have. Second I don't have Compuhost to unlock the programs and certainly not going to pay $180 just to unlock the songs. With a program I wouldn't use for anything else (I don't like it's features). Third if their HD crashes you have lost the ability to: 1) Unlock any more songs. 2) Download any more updates to unlock them because as far as I know only their HD can connect to CB to do updates. 3) Repurchase another HD to use any credits you might have left over. When CB first offered their DL's they said it was OK to use them in a commercial show and then they changed their minds. Luckily I had only DL'd 1 song and now that they changed their minds I don't use it. There's gotta be a better way!
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mrmarog
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:30 pm |
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Technically, isn't it REALLY a digital download if it comes from a KJMHD? It just just doesn't have to travel very far. After all it is "digital" and you unlock/download & pay to play. I am assuming that CB TRULY does condone that kind acquisition of their music to be allowable for commercial use. Seems pretty gray to me and very "confusing". Oh, that's right "confusing" refers to trademarks only.
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