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Second City Song
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:46 pm |
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awildnkrazykj wrote: I haven't gotten an audit with sc yet?...I hear that it costs a hundred dollars?..but then again I'm not in the loop of things.....I still feel with all the confusion with multiple kj's at my location previously that they mistaken me for one of them, they never got my name right EVER....Will find out soon I guess? So you have yet to contact Sound Choice for a disc audit? If so why? I think you can clear your name if you do.
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kjathena
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:02 pm |
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Second City Song since he has been named no matter what he would be able to show his 1-1 compliance and be dropped from the lawsuit even if he were running a computerized system. Since awildncrazykj is stating he ran only discs hopefully this can be verified and corrected before discovery would be needed.
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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Second City Song
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:14 pm |
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kjathena wrote: Second City Song since he has been named no matter what he would be able to show his 1-1 compliance and be dropped from the lawsuit even if he were running a computerized system. Since awildncrazykj is stating he ran only discs hopefully this can be verified and corrected before discovery would be needed. That's what I thought, by showing Sound Choice his discs. Wouldn't Sound Choice notify a suspect before filing a lawsuit and ask to see the originals first?
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c. staley
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:44 pm |
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He has nothing to prove. Sound. Choice needs to prove the evidence they supposedly have against him from their investivation that would make their case.
If it were me, I would not be nice about being named in a federal lawsuit with the crap they're pulling.
I cannot believe how many of you are swallowing their story.
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Cueball
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:55 pm |
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awildnkrazykj wrote: I haven't gotten an audit with sc yet?...I hear that it costs a hundred dollars?..but then again I'm not in the loop of things..... From what's been explained by the others on this Forum, since you've been named in a lawsuit, if you contact SC (probably Kurt directly), they will arrange for you to have an Audit for free. Once they've seen that you are running legally, they will drop your name from the lawsuit. Now, I would like to know if they (SC) give you some sort of notarized letter stating that you have been cleared of all charges against you. awildnkrazykj wrote: Someone said when pirateers settle, that they wipe out the drives even of other mfg songs but the ones in my area still runs shows with that same library.....in fact they are now running even more multi gigs thinking they are clear.... That's what has also been stated here, but I've yet to hear any proof that that's actually been done..... All I've heard is that there have been such judgements/Court orders made against a few, but I've yet to hear anything of whether there has been any compliances to that/those Court orders. Personally, I would think if this has happened already, the word would be spreading like wild fire all over the place.
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rickgood
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:30 pm |
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Also, they will purge every reference to the lawsuit on the internet, even working with Google, Yahoo and Bing to delete the archived references. Then, they will contact every person who saw the lawsuit or reference to your name both online and in print, bring them to Charlotte, NC for the night and erase their memory so that they can't recall ever seeing your name associated with legal action. It's pretty amazing how they do all that and also, no charge to you if you are found to be 1:1 anyway.
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Second City Song
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:42 am |
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rickgood wrote: Also, they will purge every reference to the lawsuit on the internet, even working with Google, Yahoo and Bing to delete the archived references. Then, they will contact every person who saw the lawsuit or reference to your name both online and in print, bring them to Charlotte, NC for the night and erase their memory so that they can't recall ever seeing your name associated with legal action. It's pretty amazing how they do all that and also, no charge to you if you are found to be 1:1 anyway. Kind of like if you googled Rick Santorum I guess. Not positive.
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awildnkrazykj
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:59 am |
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Who knows if anyopne would ever clear my name in the future but what I do know is that all my loyal customers and friends believe in me and know of my intregrity.... Also the Club owner has verified my legal and legitimate library before he even hired me, this after the guys who swiped it away from me when the new owners took over were in FACT known to be illegit... This all seems like a nightmare and soon I will wake up, meanwhile I lay in slumber. I have been doing karaoke for over 21 years now, my longevity is based on truth and professionalism and most of all, personality. I know it may sound grand standing or theatrical on my behalf but what does one do when their name has been associated with this lawsuit, especially being on the "GOOD SIDE"? I brought this to the people in hopes that they will see that sometimes a "DOLPHIN" does get caught in the net. Also, who is this "INSANE KJ" who has posted my name up on another site inciting that I am guilty as charged?...shame on him, he should recant his public posting until all has been resolved first? Thank you all for all your input and suggestions, whether it be one side or the other, like I said one way or another, time will tell.
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kjathena
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:36 am |
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Awildncrazykj You asked what does one do when being associated with this lawsuit and being on the good side ? the answer to that is up to you. As a "dolphin" I can only tell you what I did and that is continue to fight against karaoke piracy and inform as may people as possible as to the process.
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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Kuelman1
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:42 am |
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kjathena wrote: Second City Song since he has been named no matter what he would be able to show his 1-1 compliance and be dropped from the lawsuit even if he were running a computerized system. Since awildncrazykj is stating he ran only discs hopefully this can be verified and corrected before discovery would be needed. Ok I can't take it anymore! I try very hard to not post or reply in the Piracy forums. But he does not need to prove s**t. He was running CDG's he was legal. What kind of investigation did they do? Why the heck does he need a audit to prove he was legal. He did not media shift his disc. Maybe they need to do real investigations to catch real pirates.
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kjathena
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:14 am |
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Kuelman1 please do yourself a favor and breathe.....then re-read the statement. The first sentence refers to anyone that is named. The second sentence refers to awildncrazykj personally.
As much as I do prefer to believe what all people state on the forums, not all people tell the whole truth all the time thus the need for the investigation information to be verified.
It is always better to act than to react
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:25 pm |
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Kuelman1 wrote: Ok I can't take it anymore! I try very hard to not post or reply in the Piracy forums. But he does not need to prove s**t. He was running CDG's he was legal. What kind of investigation did they do? Why the heck does he need a audit to prove he was legal. He did not media shift his disc. Maybe they need to do real investigations to catch real pirates. this has been the entire problem, they are NOT investigating anything. that's why we are so pissed at the entire thing.
_________________ Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens
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kjathena
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:25 pm |
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The evidence in the investigation is being reviewed in depth at this time....if awildncrazykj was playing discs at the time of investigation this will quickly become evident.....investigations are taking place
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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rickgood
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:05 pm |
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kjathena wrote: The evidence in the investigation is being reviewed in depth at this time....if awildncrazykj was playing discs at the time of investigation this will quickly become evident.....investigations are taking place If they'd done a frickin' investigation, they would have SEEN he was playing discs! Why is that so hard to understand?
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kjathena
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:17 pm |
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If he was playing discs at the time of the investigation them yes they would have seen that.....but lets get real here none of us were there when the investigation was taking place.....we are all wanting to believe the word of someone who says he is Rodney ....as this is just a posting on an internet forum we don't even know if that is true....it could be anyone claiming to be Rodney for all we know. I am not trying to be mean I am just saying you have to take everything with just a small dose of salt.........How are all of you going to feel if ....Just if APS is able to produce proof that at the time of investigation the show in question was running on a computerized system. I am willing to look at the possibility that this is Rodney posting and that he is telling the truth........why can't you haters even consider that some caution should be taken before jumping to conclusions ?
DOES ANY OF THIS MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY ?
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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mckyj57
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:26 pm |
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kjathena wrote: If he was playing discs at the time of the investigation them yes they would have seen that.....but lets get real here none of us were there when the investigation was taking place.....we are all wanting to believe the word of someone who says he is Rodney ....as this is just a posting on an internet forum we don't even know if that is true....it could be anyone claiming to be Rodney for all we know. I am only the one least qualified to say this, but I will say it -- that is wrong. It is Rodney. I am sure Cueball and quite a few others can attest to that. What's odd is that he was on here long before you joined, complaining about pirates. He still doesn't like them. And I can assure you, that is real and honest behavior. Now of course I wouldn't swear of my own knowledge he isn't playing fast and loose with a computer file now and then, but I believe him when he says he is 1-1. Rodney is a real person, people know him in the flesh, and his postings now are consistent with the ones he has been making for years before you ever showed up. Quote: I am not trying to be mean I am just saying you have to take everything with just a small dose of salt.........How are all of you going to feel if ....Just if APS is able to produce proof that at the time of investigation the show in question was running on a computerized system. I am willing to look at the possibility that this is Rodney posting and that he is telling the truth........why can't you haters even consider that some caution should be taken before jumping to conclusions ? There's that word "haters" again. I hate that "word".
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kjathena
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:36 pm |
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mckyj57 personally I hope that this is the case. I really do want to believe that this is Rodney and that what he is saying is true, all I was trying to say is we do not know until the investigation information has been reviewed we are all ASSUMING . none of us have personal knowledge of what was going on at the show/shows that were investigated. My gut feeling tells me that Rodney is most likely 1-1 compliant IF he was using a computer in the first place. I will however reserve judgment until the evidence can be examined
_________________ "Integrity is choosing your thoughts, words and actions based on your principles and values rather than for your personal gain." Unknown "if a man has integrity, nothing else matters, If a man has no integrity, nothing else matters." Lee McGuffey
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:03 pm |
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I can confirm that Kurt is looking into the situation and it will be dealt with as soon as possible. With the holiday it has been difficult to get the information needed to take action.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:39 pm |
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kjathena wrote: The evidence in the investigation is being reviewed in depth at this time....if awildncrazykj was playing discs at the time of investigation this will quickly become evident.....investigations are taking place investigating the ineptness of their "investigators" is not what i was referring to, it was the lack of initial investigation before suing him.
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birdofsong
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:48 pm |
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kjathena wrote: mckyj57 personally I hope that this is the case. I really do want to believe that this is Rodney and that what he is saying is true, all I was trying to say is we do not know until the investigation information has been reviewed we are all ASSUMING . none of us have personal knowledge of what was going on at the show/shows that were investigated. My gut feeling tells me that Rodney is most likely 1-1 compliant IF he was using a computer in the first place. I will however reserve judgment until the evidence can be examined Athena, is there no end to your blind loyalty? First you're sure there is a valid explanation...now you're even questioning Rodney's identity. I'll say one thing for you...you sure are predictable. Rodney is most definitely Rodney, whether you believe it or not, and I'd trust him far more than you. Leave the poor guy alone, already. And let Sound Choice do their own damage control. If they can dish it out by suing disc-based KJ's, they'd better be able to take it.
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