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I need a little help choosing songs. The rub is they have to be at the most 3 minutes. I have two songs already chosen that fit the time criteria and show off my range. I need two prepare two more songs one pop/rock and one of my choice so two pop/ songs. I also have to come up with an excellent 30 second audition song.

I hit notes like steve perry if that helps.

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DannyG2006 wrote:
I hit notes like steve perry if that helps.


If you truly can do that, then hit em! Play to the crowd and sing the tired, worn, over-done "Don't stop believing'". As far as crowd faves go, you cant go much higher. BUT...you have to pull it off 100%.

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Competing in my first singing contest in July.


Unless you are on "The Voice", prepare to be disappointed and I mean that will all sincerity as a friend.

These contests are never as they seem on the surface.

Unless you know the judges of course. :wink:


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I disagree with that, contests IF run fairly are fine. I have seen both ways done both fairly & unfairly which is why I try to run (when I do) the fairest contest I can.

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I gave up entering contests years ago. I was in a couple of them, back in NY. The first was sponsored by Pioneer, back in 1995. It started off at the local level, then the winners at the local places would go out to Vegas for the finals. The local part was an elimination going down from 10 contestants. I made it to the final three. It was me, this old timer named Eddie, and this awesome girl named Candice. I did Joe Cocker's version of With a Little Help and Oh Darling. Candice did I Will Always Love You, and something else. Eddie did Unchained Melody and Sherry. He cracked 4 times during those songs. He was having a bad night. Candice kick butt, and I was the ONLY one to get a standing ovation. Eddie won and went on to Vegas. We found out later that the judges were friends of his. He got his in Vegas. The guy that won that part of the contest did Wanted dead or Alive, had a light show, and tore off his shirt halfway through the song. Eddie later found out he was a regular patron of the venue. We all got a good laugh at that.

The second contest was a team contest. Teams of five singers got together to compete, one to one with the other teams. The first round took place at a hotel in Suffolk County NY. The team I joined was AMAZING. There were three rounds. The first night was at this hotel. We made it to the second round, which was at a place called Calihans in Nassau County, NY. We made it to the finals. We went there, after beating every team we faced. The final round came up. At around 11:30, that night, a team walks in that we never even saw. We sang against them, and lost. They took the whole thing. We found out that they worked for the DJ company that was hosting the contest. A few months later they called me up to ask to join their next contest. I told them where to go. I never bothered after that.



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Why I said IF run fairly. When we do contests I make sure the judges are not bar patrons (usally the friends). We go outside the scope, looking for judges that are in karaoke friendly local bands, local radio djs, local recording/sound engineers, vocal instructors, etc. NEVER patrons of the bar which is most likely what happened in your case.

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Lonman wrote:
Why I said IF run fairly. When we do contests I make sure the judges are not bar patrons (usally the friends). We go outside the scope, looking for judges that are in karaoke friendly local bands, local radio djs, local recording/sound engineers, vocal instructors, etc. NEVER patrons of the bar which is most likely what happened in your case.

Nice. Sounds like you have the right ideas. I would join a contest like that. Although, I don't have quite the voice I had 17 years ago. I am 44 now, and I had smoked for 23 years before I quit in 2006. It bothers me, that's for sure. It happens to everybody. Geoff Tate is one of my favorite singers, and if you listen to his voice now, at 53, and listen to him from the Warning album it's like two different people. He can still sing, but he's lost MUCH of his range. Getting old sucks!!!

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Just like on American Idol; many people think that they sing better than they actually sing. They enter a contest and they never hear their own bad notes and think that they nailed a song when they didn't. Remember the girl a few years back who said that her vocal coach said that she sounded just like Mariah Carey???

I wish you luck DannyG but very few people sing like Steve Perry. You got anything to put up on the singersshowcase to .....showcase that ability?


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Bazza said "These contests are never as they seem on the surface. Unless you know the judges of course."

These are just the kind of ignorant statements that not only pi$$ me off, but are just plain bullcrap...

I've worked my tail off to ensure our contest is completely squeaky clean, yet there's always those Bazzas in the crowd who are better judges, better organizers, better singers... better everything... but never once have any of them stepped up to volunteer THEIR services...

I'm sure there are poorly judged contests... Make that, I know there are poorly-judged contests... but to make a statement inferring they're all rigged is just WRONG.

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Earl wrote:
Bazza said "These contests are never as they seem on the surface. Unless you know the judges of course."

These are just the kind of ignorant statements that not only pi$$ me off, but are just plain bullcrap...

I've worked my tail off to ensure our contest is completely squeaky clean, yet there's always those Bazzas in the crowd who are better judges, better organizers, better singers... better everything... but never once have any of them stepped up to volunteer THEIR services...

I'm sure there are poorly judged contests... Make that, I know there are poorly-judged contests... but to make a statement inferring they're all rigged is just WRONG.

(can you tell someone's hit my hot button?)

But you have to understand something. It's not an ignorant statement if that is what he has witnessed. If YOU run a clean contest, you are doing the right thing and it is helpful. MANY do NOT run clean contests and favor their own patrons. I have seen it, and so have many that I know. So, I hate to tell you that say his statement is ignorant is flat out wrong.

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BruceFan4Life wrote:
Just like on American Idol; many people think that they sing better than they actually sing. They enter a contest and they never hear their own bad notes and think that they nailed a song when they didn't. Remember the girl a few years back who said that her vocal coach said that she sounded just like Mariah Carey???

I wish you luck DannyG but very few people sing like Steve Perry. You got anything to put up on the singersshowcase to .....showcase that ability?

As for singing Steve Perry, he said he can hit notes like Steve Perry, not that he sings like Steve Perry. Steve Perry is NOT that hard to sing. He doesn't even have much of a range, comparatively. When I was younger I could sing I could sing Angel Eyes from Steelheart. That dude has some range, let me tell ya. Don't automatically assume that DannyG is talking out his butt.

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I have no idea what DannyG sounds like. there are PLENTY of people that lose at karaoke contests. In fact, Everybody but one person always thinks that they got robbed, one way or another. I made it to the finals of a contest recently and was the first one voted out once the finals started. After listening to all of the other singers in the contest; I was glad to get the boot earlier than later. It saved me weeks of going there knowing that I would just be spinning my wheels. There were many people in the contest that I thought deserved to stay in the contest before me. I ran into a couple of people that had gotten voted out later in the contest and they both complained that the contest was fixed. Nobody seems to think that they should ever lose.


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@Smoothedge....

Read his statement over again... He says "These contests are never as they seem." (emphasis mine).

That sure seems to me like he's stating that ALL contests are fixed, and I take great exception to that.

Unless, in fact, he has seen every singing contest there is, and has some sort of proof that each and every one is fixed, I'd suggest he refrain from making blanket statements.

I've seen too many people (@$%&#!) and complain because this is wrong, or that isn't done right, or those judges don't know what they're doing.... My response... "Step up, or shut up."

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Earl wrote:
@Smoothedge....

Read his statement over again... He says "These contests are never as they seem." (emphasis mine).

That sure seems to me like he's stating that ALL contests are fixed, and I take great exception to that.

Unless, in fact, he has seen every singing contest there is, and has some sort of proof that each and every one is fixed, I'd suggest he refrain from making blanket statements.

I've seen too many people <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span> and complain because this is wrong, or that isn't done right, or those judges don't know what they're doing.... My response... "Step up, or shut up."

That's why I said that in his experience that may be the case. He may have only been in deceitful contests. The two that was is certainly were. That is why I stopped competing.

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I too, have a bad taste when it comes to contests. We used to do one for the local Rodeo Association.. they were fun! And I got no complaints. A few years after the Rodeo had stopped doing them, I got requests .. 'when are you going to do another contest'. So, I decided to do it right.. .pulled in all three bars where we worked, put ads on the radio, and had to charge $5 per entry. The contest ran 6 weeks. The judges were all local radio DJ's and a couple of Music Store owners. Well, the entries were very low.. the bar didn't make any money. We have some contest-only singers in this town.. never see them any other time. One guy looks exactly like Frank Sinatra.. he brought lights to the finals (that bar has no stage etc).. and he let us use the light for everyone :) He got second place... I don't even remember who won! The third place gal won a weekend stay at a hotel with dinner for two and a gift certificate at the music store. She somehow got ahold of my cell phone number and called me that night while I was driving home.. chewed me out because she didnt' win cash and she gave up time with her kids to compete. GEEEZ..
I lost my A$$ on that contest.. $500 out of my own pocket. Needless to say.. .she picked the wrong time to call me! I gave her $500 worth of SO WHAT GET OVER IT! I swore I'd never do another and I won't! People accusing me of fixing the contest.. for what?? I could care less who wins! Karaoke is fun until you get the egos involved. Never ever ever ever ever...did I say EVER.. again!!

BTW, I thought Frank should have won :) and yes, his real name is Frank.. he now owns a club at a resort in Palm Springs... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... I3pc5LcsG8

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BTW, if you have to be under 3 minutes for your song.... couldn't you just do 3 minutes of a song.. have them fade it out during a break in the song? If so... sing Steve Perry :)

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Had some help from my girlfriend but I found the songs I am going to use. For the audition I am going to use Open Arms or at least the first verse of it. The first round I will be using Pinball Wizard from Tommy. Second weeks gonna be Second Chance by Shinedown, third week is gonna be In My Life by the Beatles and week 4 is gonna be Why Can't This Night Go On Forever by Journey. So I ended up with 2 Steve Perry songs with the last being the one to highlight my high range.
I did consider until I thought about it Alone by Heart but I wanted to sing the last one to my girlfriend.

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......First off Danny, I want to wish you the very best of luck in the contest!

Am sure most of us here are because of our love for music and being in the KJ/DJ Business. For me, I can listen and like any music in any genre. Do I have days I don't care to listen to any music? Sure, but it rarely happens.

As for an earlier statement:
"Steve Perry is NOT that hard to sing. He doesn't even have much of a range, comparatively."

Really? Wow! Must not be much of a Journey/Steve Perry Fan? Nothing personal, but I am. However, since the departure of Steve Perry from Journey, they've ONLY been looking and looking and looking for many years to find THAT REPLACEMENT VOICE. They finally got close with Arnel Pineda but it's still not Steve Perry. However, I still like Arnel.

I have seen a few guys, on You Tube (Cover & Tribute Bands), come close to Perry but have yet to see someone completely duplicate his voice on every song. Most won't even try to hit the high notes in those songs as he did because they can't! They fizzle out on those parts,they look at their band mates, they smile and shake their heads back and forth because they know how hard it is to sing those notes.

Yes, I know, I'm a Journey Freak Fan and am glad their music is still out their like so many others from the past. I hope they all continue to be! Am sure most if not all of you have your favorites and this is one of mine!

Hey Danny.....Do you have anything you can post on You Tube? Be happy to review it for ya. Once again, Good Luck with the contest!!!


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......First off Danny, I want to wish you the very best of luck in the contest!



As for an earlier statement:
"Steve Perry is NOT that hard to sing. He doesn't even have much of a range, comparatively."

Really? Wow! Must not be much of a Journey/Steve Perry Fan? Nothing personal, but I am. However, since the departure of Steve Perry from Journey, they've ONLY been looking and looking and looking for many years to find THAT REPLACEMENT VOICE. They finally got close with Arnel Pineda but it's still not Steve Perry. However, I still like Arnel.

I have seen a few guys, on You Tube (Cover & Tribute Bands), come close to Perry but have yet to see someone completely duplicate his voice on every song. Most won't even try to hit the high notes in those songs as he did because they can't! They fizzle out on those parts,they look at their band mates, they smile and shake their heads back and forth because they know how hard it is to sing those notes.


I said he's not that hard to sing, I said nothing about duplicating his complete sound and cloning his voice. Comparatively speaking, he does NOT have an extraordinary range. Michael Matijevic from Steelheart had an extraordinary range. Robb Halford has insane range until he got older. Don't get me wrong, Steve Perry is a great singer, or was in his youth, but there are much better singers out there. Geoff Tate comes to mind, for one. Lyles Kennedy is another great singer.

Some other great singers with better range than Steve Perry (in their youth, because none, including Perry can sing as well now that they are older), include John Alder from Fates Warning, Jeff Scott Soto from Rising Force, Ian Gillan from Deep Purple, David Coverdale, and Geman singer from Helloween, Michael Kiske, just to name a few.

Then of course there is the one and only, who nobody will ever compare to, EVER (and he didn't have an incredible range) Ronald James Padavona, A.K.A. Ronnie James Dio. He was a true loss to Rock. The only rocker's death that will effect me more is Ozzy's. When he goes I will be truly sad.

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Bazza said "These contests are never as they seem on the surface. Unless you know the judges of course."

These are just the kind of ignorant statements that not only pi$$ me off, but are just plain bullcrap...


Sorry. Most are never as they seem. Better? :roll:

For every legit contest like yours, there are a dozen that are not. And that's no "ignorant bullcrap" my friend, that's reality in the dirty bar business. :lol:

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That's why I said that in his experience that may be the case. He may have only been in deceitful contests. The two that was is certainly were. That is why I stopped competing.


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