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Hey, I'm happy as long as I can use the stuff in my future shows, and can avoid Mr. Sound Choice Man. I could then use my SC disks just for my own use, when I go out and hang, like I have been doing. It's all my music, anyway, and I am the only one that sings the stuff I have.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

well, SC doesn't offer downloads, so they can't do a thing to you.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

As stated, downloads are not original mfrs. product. However, and again, not the point of the OP. Therefore, live and let live- and enjoy....

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@Harrington

"As stated, downloads are not original mfrs. product."

is this true?

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

Of course it's not.

This is only true in "Joe's World" as he is under the incorrect assumption that downloading something changes it from the original.

I had an e-mail exchange with Tricerasoft, and they have assured me that their license is worldwide and the track ARE usable by KJs for what we would call commercial use.

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I buy a lot of songs from Tricerasoft & like them.

If you buy the largest bulk pack, the per track price drops to $1.40 a track, which isn't too bad.

They actually have Whitesnake's version of "Ain't No Love In The Heart of The City", which I have never seen before. I can't wait to get my hands on that.

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i agree Bazza,
i asked for Harrington's response because he is the only with a license in IP law here (Bird is not a lawyer, if i am wrong i apologize Bird) so as he already dispelled the "fact" that downloads can not be used in the U.S. at all, i would like his input.

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Paradigm Karaoke, The New Standard.......Shift Happens

If the download was authorized by the manu then I would think that it is. But I would need to know more.

Here you go...........the entire document::


1. All Songs are sold for USE and permission for KJs, Enthusiasts, or Private/Home entertainment. Songs can not be sold, redistributed, or shared. You agree to be the sole user of the content and each receipt will represent ONE copy of the song for use as a KJ, Enthusiast, or Private/Home user.

2. Backup to digital media is ONLY allowed for storage as long as it remains in the possession of the owner of the license receipt(s) holder. Backup is the sole responsibility of the customer and you agree that TriceraSoft is NOT liable or responsible for any damage, corruption, or restoration of content that may be caused by choice of backup.

3. Songs are licensed for computer use ONLY. Each receipt is licensed for ONE use. Conversion is not covered under our license. Any conversion, transfer, or alteration is strictly forbidden. Alteration of the content can only be done with permission by the manufacturer. Any operation that may cause alteration of the tracks is SOLELY your responsibility and at your own risk. We do NOT provide tools nor will we provide instructions; this includes any Conversion or Burning to disc. Discussion of issues or instructions using third party tools are strictly taboo and absolutely AT YOUR OWN RISK, WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY, AND NOT COVERED UNDER SUPPORT OR LICENSING! NO EXCEPTION!

4. All songs are provided with either an audio or visual preview. You agree to preview the song before purchase or if without preview understand that all content is KARAOKE style reproductions and may or may not include supporting singers. Some content may represent leading singers for support, duet, or backup/effect. Multiplex tracks WILL include lead vocals on either the left or the right channel, and without LEAD vocals on the opposite channel - Multiplex tracks are intended for players with the Multiplex feature OR if you intend to hear the LEAD vocals on regular players. All songs are REPRODUCTIONS produced by the manufacturers, in purchasing you agree that the manufacturer is solely responsible for quality and accuracy of these reproductions in comparison to the original labels' artistic performance and that TriceraSoft is not connected to the production of the tracks - tracks will not be exchanged for any such reason.

5. There are absolutely no refunds on songs or credits sold. Songs are licensed IMMEDIATELY and logged at purchase. All content is produced by the supplier manufacturers and tracks are sold 'AS IS' direct from them and in the MP3+G format.

6. If a song is purchased twice accidentally, the second is exchanged for less or equal value - you agree to contact TriceraSoft if any such double orders take place and agree that only an exchange of the SECOND item duplicated will be exchanged.

7. Songs reported corrupt will be checked and confirmed by TriceraSoft staff. ONLY songs confirmed by TriceraSoft to be corrupt will be exchanged with an equally matched song at the sole discretion of TriceraSoft and only within a span of 2 days from purchase of the original receipt. On exchange, if a suitable matching track (matching "title" AND "artist") is NOT found, TriceraSoft will at it's own discretion offer an alternate song if the circumstance permits. If the song is found; intact, integral, and without fault then no exchange will take place. TriceraSoft will issue instructions on how to redownload a fresh copy of the song and recommend correct methods of use and playback of the tracks.

8. TriceraSoft holds the right to refuse delivery and service to accounts and links. Customers who are found in breach of use, threaten licensing or service, are found to be a copyright hazard, and/or misrepresent content will be immediately suspended without notice.

9. TriceraSoft holds the right to suspend or discontinue service to any customer at its own discretion without prior notice or explanation. You agree that TriceraSoft in its sole discretion and without prior notice to you, terminate your access to the Site and your Account for any reason, including without limitation:

a. attempts to gain unauthorized access to the Site or assistance to others' attempting to do so,
b. overcoming software security features limiting use of or protecting any Content,
c. discontinuance or material modification of the Site or any service offered on or through the Site,
d. violations of this Terms of Use,
e. failure to pay for purchases,
f. suspected or actual copyright infringement, or
g. unexpected operational difficulties

10. All account details on TriceraSoft services will be held confidential. You may not share or provide your information of any account to anyone else. You agree that any unauthorized use of your account will be notified immediately and TriceraSoft is not liable for any loss or misuse of the account. It is your sole responsibility to maintain your account and not share your details with anyone. TriceraSoft does not share any account details. You agree to notify TriceraSoft if any secure information is required to be changed including, contact information, password, etc.

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I am the ONLY SANE 1 HERE

That may seem to be a confusing sentence. It almost sounds like you can only use the track once. Or does it mean you can only use it on one computer? If so what happens if that computer dies?

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There is another area that say you can back up the files to another drive, but you need permission to put them on disk. It's kind of opposite SC's policy.

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Tricerasoft seems to have gotten the license from the Eagles. They have seven pages worth of Eagles tunes.

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Well i haven't been able to verify this but I have asked this question before, and the answer I got from Tricerasoft was that they specifically asked for the wording 'FOR KJ Use" in their license.

If that's true then they have indeed licensed the digital content thru the NA producers, and the tracks are perfectly legal to use in a show.

-James

I have found some really cool songs on there, that I have never been able to do that I have wanted to.

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I just looked up The Eagles on their Karaoke tracks, and went through the 7 pages of songs they had listed (I'm just missing 3 songs from their listing). First off, those 7 pages have repeats listed. Secondly, they are all from other manufacturers... ZOOM, Sunfly, SBI, Abraxis (isn't Abraxis Sound Choice?), and Music Maestro. With the exception of MM (out of business), the others listed are all in the UK. Does Tricerasoft make any of their own Karaoke tracks?

I'm not sure how they can do this legally (give permission for another Manu's product). Can someone explain that to me?

Maybe Tricerasoft bought them all out. Maybe they could buy out SC and get rid of all the bull.

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Its simple, UK manufacturers own the MASTER rights to their tracks, lyrics and all and can therefore sell them for digital distrubution to whomever they wish.. They don't need the original producer's permission.

The licence I was referring to is the right to distribute digital tracks for KJ use in north america, which to the best of my knowledge, is an entirely different matter.

Ahhhh.... OK... That makes sense to me now. Thank you.

But, going back to my post about the brands they are using/offering, Music Maestro was US based. They've been out of business for many years (as far as I know). How would Tricerasoft have obtained those rights?





I understood what you meant... When I asked my question, I should have added, "in the US?".