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I think you've gotten the wrong idea.

If you are playing from original discs, you really don't have to worry about the investigator making a mistake. There were a lot of wild suggestions put forward in that discussion because the people asking for the "iron-clad guarantee" don't really want a guarantee at all. They are trying to build a case to sue SC, even though they have stopped using the product, because they would prefer to operate in an environment where no one is around to police the unauthorized use of SC's material. There is a long history there, and there are many facts known to both sides that don't get discussed here because the pro-SC people on this board choose not to bring them up. For someone who hasn't been here through a lot of that history, it's sometimes hard to discern when people are making fun of other people.

Now, two things: First, you're in an area that is my primary responsibility. My investigators are well trained and follow my protocols exactly. They know what to look for; when you get a show, if they visit it, you will never be able to tell that they were there to investigate. That's not because they are being sneaky in some way. It's because they know karaoke and they know how to act at a karaoke show. But if you are using original discs, they'll be able to tell. (You might even get a letter from us later, informing you that we were at your show and letting you know we appreciate your using original discs.)

Second, the reason why they'll be able to tell is that one thing they look for is whether a host is playing from discs of any type. If you're playing from burns, you'll be subject to the same suit as playing from a hard drive. That's something they look at very carefully.

Did this really warrant another new thread?

If I am running off a hard drive, BUT not using your product, then you have no reason to sue. I have no intention of using SC products just because I don't want to give your inspectors anything to look at. What do you have to say about that?? I could use ALL Tricerasoft songs, and your inspectors can't do a thing about it.

I don't believe that any CD manufacturer should have as much power as these guys think they should have. So, I will take the power away from them.

What I am looking for is what SC's next strategy is if they do not see SC music being used. What nonsense am I going to have to deal with, then?

I will admit to being unprepared for the visceral hatred for SC that developed in you once you learned that you weren't going to be able to steal the product to get started and get away with it. I'm sure Chip is happy to have a new protege.

It really is kind of simple, though. We've determined that we have to do what we're doing in order to get back to making music, and once we do, we have to do a better job of protecting the product against piracy. You may not need or want to use the product, and that's fine. There are lots of customers who do want the product and don't mind paying for it and following the rules. But the reason why the product exists is because people took a risk with their own money and credit and built it from the ground up. At the time SC started, there were no American karaoke manus (at least not in the sense we think of them today). Without that risk, you and I wouldn't have a product to argue over. Without the protection we're trying to build today, there won't be a product to argue over in the future.



That's easy. "Make a note of it and go to the next show."

And that would be that??

Of course.

Cool. Then I will just use my current SC discs for when i go and hang out, or for parties at home.

Better put you CB away also, maybe your SGB also because their going to be following closely what SC is doing also with their Tiger Squad...Also theres the FBI on the other stuff, our local Justice Dept. office seemed very interrested in what I had to say about copyright infringment here locally. Don't forget SC and CB arn't the only ones going broke, the Feds are too...So Bobby don't get tempted to get your HD full of stuff, the Feds are turning their attention that direction also. And they arn't going to mearly ask you to buy the Gem. No they'll tell you that where your going they have a Gym...

Jon

I'm sure Chip is happy to have a new protege.

It really is kind of simple, though. We've determined that we have to do what we're doing in order to get back to making music, and once we do, we have to do a better job of protecting the product against piracy. You may not need or want to use the product, and that's fine. There are lots of customers who do want the product and don't mind paying for it and following the rules. But the reason why the product exists is because people took a risk with their own money and credit and built it from the ground up.

At the time SC started, there were no American karaoke manus (at least not in the sense we think of them today).

Without that risk, you and I wouldn't have a product to argue over. Without the protection we're trying to build today, there won't be a product to argue over in the future.

This is completely untrue.

Really? Name them.

Better put you CB away also, maybe your SGB also because their going to be following closely what SC is doing also with their Tiger Squad...Also theres the FBI on the other stuff, our local Justice Dept. office seemed very interrested in what I had to say about copyright infringment here locally. Don't forget SC and CB arn't the only ones going broke, the Feds are too...So Bobby don't get tempted to get your HD full of stuff, the Feds are turning their attention that direction also. And they arn't going to mearly ask you to buy the Gem. No they'll tell you that where your going they have a Gym...

Jon

Start with Music Minus One (i.e. Pocket Songs)......

and yes, they had tracks minus vocals.

So it is not true to state there were "no American Manufacturers" when SC started.

Check your facts.

Music Minus One has been around since the 1950s, but they've only been doing karaoke since 1985--the same year SC began operations. Try again.

At the time SC started, there were no American karaoke manus...

The raw concept of karaoke actually dates back to America and 1950, some twenty years before it had a name in Japan. The company was Pocket Songs; the company label Music Minus One. They produced long-playing records (known to the world then as LPs), and they were the very first to release sing-along recordings.

In 1950, before Karaoke Music was invented, a firm new to the just- introduced world of the long-playing record, LP as it came to be known, released the first sing-along recordings in this new medium. The label, Music Minus One, while specializing in classical repertoire, had at the head of the company a fervent jazz fan, and in the company’s second year, in 1952, he recorded three different all-star rhythm sections performing great standards of the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s. Intended primarily for jazz improvising, they also offered vocalists a wonderful opportunity to sing with a band These recordings proved very popular, sold in the thousands and were purchased throughout the world.

And what about that mid-twentieth century company, Music Minus One. In 1985, the originator of Karaoke, an American, proceeded to provide sound-alikes of every song of the last century in the karaoke format. It was an undertaking that produced in the following 19 years, over 12,000 songs, from every decade of the century. Pocket Songs was the name given to the “Karaoke” offshoot of Music Minus One. They company even began offering Opera Arias with full symphony orchestras.

The other thread was locked, and I hadn't gotten a chance to answer what Mr. Harrington said.

Better put you CB away also, maybe your SGB also because their going to be following closely what SC is doing also with their Tiger SquadJon

Don't expect to see or hear anything from CB for a couple of years- it won't happen.. Later, maybe...