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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:07 am 
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I will repeat myself for the second time. I said "I don't know what the official position is". I am telling you what I would do and have done. Use it as you will.


I'm sorry, Mickey I did read "I don't know what the official position is" both times. I really wasn't trying to be controversial I was just simple saying that what seems reasonable doesn't necessarily fit with what the manus want, and why I said I would want it in writing from them.

No disrespect intended.

I guess I am expressing my frustration with the "letter of the law" mentality. It is clear to me what the intent of the manufacturers is. Requiring that type of hoop-jumping from the manufacturer seems obtuse to me. It's wasted motion and skull-sweat. If you have an extra copy laying around on another computer, the chance that they will take legal action to examine all of your computers is miniscule unless you are some kind of big player in the business.

Why make it any harder than it has to be? On EITHER end?

More importantly, why burden everyone else in discussing this 1 in a million chance?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:00 am 
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mckyj57 wrote:
hiteck wrote:
mckyj57 wrote:
I will repeat myself for the second time. I said "I don't know what the official position is". I am telling you what I would do and have done. Use it as you will.


I'm sorry, Mickey I did read "I don't know what the official position is" both times. I really wasn't trying to be controversial I was just simple saying that what seems reasonable doesn't necessarily fit with what the manus want, and why I said I would want it in writing from them.

No disrespect intended.

I guess I am expressing my frustration with the "letter of the law" mentality. It is clear to me what the intent of the manufacturers is. Requiring that type of hoop-jumping from the manufacturer seems obtuse to me. It's wasted motion and skull-sweat. If you have an extra copy laying around on another computer, the chance that they will take legal action to examine all of your computers is miniscule unless you are some kind of big player in the business.

Why make it any harder than it has to be? On EITHER end?

More importantly, why burden everyone else in discussing this 1 in a million chance?



You nailed one of my biggest peeves - the focus on cases where the likelihood of something taking place is so small that it really doesn't warrant the debate that gets raised.

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Unless my memory has taken an extended vacation, didn't Chris ask this very question in another thread and wasn't there some sort of answer given?


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leopard lizard wrote:
Unless my memory has taken an extended vacation, didn't Chris ask this very question in another thread and wasn't there some sort of answer given?


Yes....

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22762

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leopard lizard wrote:
Unless my memory has taken an extended vacation, didn't Chris ask this very question in another thread and wasn't there some sort of answer given?


Your memory is partially in tact.
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22762
The question was asked here, the answer was a secret.
Recap:
After a lot of asking for a straightforward answer and a lot of dodging by some lawyer, and then a bunch of topic changes and more asking and more dodging and then some drive-by insults, followed by additional asking, some witty one liners, followed by some playful dodging and pretending that nobody really cares for an answer, then some more asking topped off with extra asking and asking again, some lawyer decided to answer with this:
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the official answer is, no backups of media-shifted tracks. Anything beyond the policy will need individual permission.

The unofficial answer is still a secret.

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earthling12357 wrote:
leopard lizard wrote:
Unless my memory has taken an extended vacation, didn't Chris ask this very question in another thread and wasn't there some sort of answer given?


Your memory is partially in tact.
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22762
The question was asked here, the answer was a secret.
Recap:
After a lot of asking for a straightforward answer and a lot of dodging by some lawyer, and then a bunch of topic changes and more asking and more dodging and then some drive-by insults, followed by additional asking, some witty one liners, followed by some playful dodging and pretending that nobody really cares for an answer, then some more asking topped off with extra asking and asking again, some lawyer decided to answer with this:
HarringtonLaw wrote:
the official answer is, no backups of media-shifted tracks. Anything beyond the policy will need individual permission.

The unofficial answer is still a secret.

Exactly. They can't give anything but the official answer. But a policy that means weeks of downtime because of a simple disk head crash obviously doesn't make practical sense.

I believe that if I operate within the spirit of the agreement, i.e. I don't have two rigs set up and ready to gig out, that I won't get in trouble because no one will be looking to get me in trouble. I may be crazy for that belief, but I hold it anyway.

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mckyj57 wrote:
earthling12357 wrote:
leopard lizard wrote:
Unless my memory has taken an extended vacation, didn't Chris ask this very question in another thread and wasn't there some sort of answer given?


Your memory is partially in tact.
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=22762
The question was asked here, the answer was a secret.
Recap:
After a lot of asking for a straightforward answer and a lot of dodging by some lawyer, and then a bunch of topic changes and more asking and more dodging and then some drive-by insults, followed by additional asking, some witty one liners, followed by some playful dodging and pretending that nobody really cares for an answer, then some more asking topped off with extra asking and asking again, some lawyer decided to answer with this:
HarringtonLaw wrote:
the official answer is, no backups of media-shifted tracks. Anything beyond the policy will need individual permission.

The unofficial answer is still a secret.

Exactly. They can't give anything but the official answer. But a policy that means weeks of downtime because of a simple disk head crash obviously doesn't make practical sense.

I believe that if I operate within the spirit of the agreement, i.e. I don't have two rigs set up and ready to gig out, that I won't get in trouble because no one will be looking to get me in trouble. I may be crazy for that belief, but I hold it anyway.

If you are running one rig, and only use one HDD for your songs, but have 10 HDDs in a safe at your house, that are only used if your main HDD dies, what can they do?? You still have the original set of discs, and you are ONLY running one rig. The rest is back-up. It's not like SC can come and search your house. Personally, I don't see a problem as long as you are only running that one system, and aren't selling off tracks, and you keep your original discs.

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