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birdofsong
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:15 am |
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Egging people on? Other than work, there it's not a person around that wants to stay farther away from lawsuits than I do. If I didn't, I'd be playing every SC track I own and daring you to come after me. By the way, I've never spoken with Dan Dan. Ever. And I've never encouraged litigation. Not even to Rodney who didn't deserve to be sued in the first place.
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timberlea
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:17 pm |
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I'll keep it simple. You have a paralegal and a court reporter versus an attorney specializing in any part of the law, be it criminal, civil, IP, real estate, or whatever. Who would you hire to represent you or get legal advice from? I know what I would do.
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earthling12357
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:24 pm |
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I would hire Dan Dan.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:02 pm |
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just to keep something in mind, my Ex-Wife is paralegal to the Assistant States Attorney in Illinois, while we were married the amount of research she had to do was insane. most of the research on legalities, procedure, and drafting of documents for these things is handled by the paralegals and legal assistants. the attorney takes the results, double checks, and goes forward with it all. so i do have to give Bird that she most likely knows more than she gets credit for.
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kjathena
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:17 pm |
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mother in law was a paralegal for over 40 years.....I myself worked as a paralegal in PA for 3 year it is reading intensive...research driven occupation
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c. staley
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:26 pm |
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earthling12357 wrote: I would hire Dan Dan. Yep....
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c. staley
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:31 pm |
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timberlea wrote: I'll keep it simple. You have a paralegal and a court reporter versus an attorney specializing in any part of the law, be it criminal, civil, IP, real estate, or whatever. Who would you hire to represent you or get legal advice from? I know what I would do. Or, you could look at it this way: Quote: You have a paralegal in the U.S. with over 17 years experience in the litigation area of law and a Canadian ex-military cop/karaoke host. Who would you rather rely on for an opinon when it comes to United States law? See? It works both ways...... just sayin'
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timberlea
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Being the smart retired MP I am, I get a qualified experienced lawyer in the field I need him or her in. I am not denigrating any paralegals, but I would go with an attorney any day of the week.
But then again, neither of you have shown where it is written in law where it is legal to media shift for commercial purposes without permission, under either the Copyright or Trademark Acts. And that is the only thing that counts.
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chrisavis
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:52 pm |
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c. staley wrote: timberlea wrote: I'll keep it simple. You have a paralegal and a court reporter versus an attorney specializing in any part of the law, be it criminal, civil, IP, real estate, or whatever. Who would you hire to represent you or get legal advice from? I know what I would do. Or, you could look at it this way: Quote: You have a paralegal in the U.S. with over 17 years experience in the litigation area of law and a Canadian ex-military cop/karaoke host. Who would you rather rely on for an opinon when it comes to United States law? See? It works both ways...... just sayin' Dan Dan -Chris
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hiteck
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:43 am |
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timberlea wrote: Being the smart retired MP I am, I get a qualified experienced lawyer in the field I need him or her in. I am not denigrating any paralegals, but I would go with an attorney any day of the week.
But then again, neither of you have shown where it is written in law where it is legal to media shift for commercial purposes without permission, under either the Copyright or Trademark Acts. And that is the only thing that counts. So your saying that in Canada if there's not a law stating it's ok (legal) for you to do something then it's considered illegal?
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c. staley
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:59 am |
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hiteck wrote: So your saying that in Canada if there's not a law stating it's ok (legal) for you to do something then it's considered illegal? I couldn't tell you about Canada since I'm not a member.... However, just as a basic rule of thumb in the United States; It's not necessarily a matter of "illegal" as it is a matter of "allowed." For example: If I give you specific permission to ride your bike across my lawn, then it's perfectly okay for you to do so. On the other hand, just because you might not have ever met me or even talked to me and because of that, I've never told you "no" doesn't mean that it's okay to do it. I don't have to tell you "no" first because it's automatically a "no" until I make it a specific "yes." It becomes a problem when I tell you "yes" and then when you do it, I sue you for trespassing because I changed my mind and didn't tell you. (However, if you pay me some shekels every month as long as you own a bicycle, I might just not notice you riding across my lawn...)
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timberlea
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:15 am |
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Permission can be given and/or taken away. Paying for that permission is done all the time.
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PyleDriver
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:18 am |
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Bottom line, SC won, remember section 6... Your looking for checkmate as the only way to win. This wasn't a draw, the opponent conceded, and still goes on the board as a win for SC... Anyway I think you guy's have beatin' this dead horse long enough.
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birdofsong
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:31 am |
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PyleDriver wrote: Bottom line, SC won, remember section 6... Your looking for checkmate as the only way to win. This wasn't a draw, the opponent conceded, and still goes on the board as a win for SC... Anyway I think you guy's have beatin' this dead horse long enough.
Jon You forgot to say, "nanner, nanner, nanner." Bottom line is that nobody wins when a customer gets sued.
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c. staley
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:08 am |
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PyleDriver wrote: Bottom line, SC won, remember section 6... Your looking for checkmate as the only way to win. This wasn't a draw, the opponent conceded, and still goes on the board as a win for SC... Anyway I think you guy's have beatin' this dead horse long enough. Seriously? You believe this? Then let me ask you: What EXACTLY did SC "win?" Is this the "section 6" you're talking about?: Quote: 6. Slep-Tone is entitled to the entry of a permanent injunction against the unauthorized use of the Sound Choice Marks by Leimone. If it is, isn't that the case for everyone anyway without a fancy-schmancy "injunction?" Perhaps the state police need to file in court for a permanent injunction against you for driving "unauthorized" on the sidewalk? (Just in case you decide to one day.) It's meaningless and impresses only those that innocently don't know better.... really. (And that not a slam, it's a fact.) I don't believe Dan conceded to anything (meaningful). He still runs his business off a computer.... without an audit (I understand). And didn't have to pay thousands for a settlement or for an attorney. I don't believe Harrington worked on this case free so SC had to pay more out of pocket cash than Dan ever did.... So when it's distilled down to the basics: A taxicab driver/karaoke host with no high-priced intellectual property legal representation operates his business off a computer as usual. SC dropped their charges, Dan didn't really drop anything. Now, the question has yet to be answered by Harrington; "Who initiated the settlement?"
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:30 am |
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PyleDriver wrote: Bottom line, SC won, remember section 6... Your looking for checkmate as the only way to win. This wasn't a draw, the opponent conceded, and still goes on the board as a win for SC... Anyway I think you guy's have beatin' this dead horse long enough.
Jon YOUR WRONG!!!!! How do I know!!!! I've written Dan and got the story.
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PyleDriver
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Well if there's a non-disclosure agreement you may have just screwed over Dan by saying that. Putting that statement on the forum, not very wise... I have to agree with you Julie suing a customer is a lose lose for SC...
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:26 pm |
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PyleDriver wrote: Well if there's a non-disclosure agreement you may have just screwed over Dan by saying that. Putting that statement on the forum, not very wise... I have to agree with you Julie suing a customer is a lose lose for SC...
Jon I believe if there was a non-disclosure agreement that Dan wouldn't have told me. He just wanted me to wait to release the complete email until he had hard copies of everything that he and SC had worked out. Then again if Jim wanted to jump in and tell us what happened I wouldn't have to wait.
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diafel
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:03 pm |
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c. staley wrote: Lone Wolf wrote: Does Jay sound like he has a little "Thunder" in his writing? Now that you mention it....... hmmm... Nope! Murray C, that's who! Fancy that! Why is that some people feel the need to hide behind fake ID's in order to do some mudslinging toward the other side? Cowardice, perhaps? There are at least 4 of us on here who have NEVER felt the need to hide behind any fake ID to say what we think. Nor do we feel the need to call others names while doing it. And you try to talk about credibility, Murray C? Kinda blew there, didn't you? Too bad the joke ended up being on you. What the hell were you thinking?
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Lonman
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:03 am |
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diafel wrote: c. staley wrote: Lone Wolf wrote: Does Jay sound like he has a little "Thunder" in his writing? Now that you mention it....... hmmm... Nope! Murray C, that's who! Fancy that! Why is that some people feel the need to hide behind fake ID's in order to do some mudslinging toward the other side? Cowardice, perhaps? Or the fact he had trouble logging in with his other name & the new name was merged with his old with new login info under his old name.
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